(Closed) The issue the pro’s have with the new TOS

posted 7 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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2651 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2016

@ user,

i read the rules as they are posted ,and I agree with everything you have said above. 

Post # 4
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2239 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

I agree that not being allowed to promote your industry is super vague wording that leaves a lot of room for different interpretations. I think the wording should be clearer.

Post # 5
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3368 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 2011

I’m sorry that it’s gotten to the point where pros are leaving.  That is a HUGE loss.

Post # 6
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4336 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

@USER876: why would you leave or sugar-coat things? You’ve been on here a long time and haven’t been banned yet!

I don’t think the ToS were created so that the mods can go around banning as many photogs as possible… I think they are the way they are so that they can ban someone when necessary!

Use common sense, which I know you do –it’s different than sugar-coating things!– (like, don’t do dumb things like commenting on a post asking for non-pro pics…) and I suspect you’ll never be banned.

ETA: If you’re already thinking of leaving, but worried about getting banned, then why not just stay and enjoy yourself?

Post # 7
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Bumble bee

I think the vagueness of the ToS (in regards to this particular issue with pros) could simply be solved by creating an area on WB that is dedicated to professional advice and discussion. As long as there isn’t any direct self promotion, I don’t see the problem. I know there was a Weddingbee PRO, that is now defunct. (See bottom right of the page, right under wiki) Perhaps that could be revived? Or a similar feature/section?

Post # 8
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7779 posts
Bumble Beekeeper

I think maybe the rule’s wording should be clarified, but I agree with it. It’s a good rule.

The TOS rule is that pros cannot promote their industry as the only way to do things, which I believe was the reason behind BeeM’s banning. They can’t go around saying “Oh, if you don’t use a pro photog, your pictures will be awful.” just like a florist can’t say that anyone who does DIY or silk flowers will have disastrous wedding flowers and a cake baker can’t come on here bashing people that make their own cakes.

Self-promotion is a rule for everyone, not just the pros.

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

I mean, I dont agree with what BeeM did but why does there have to be a rule against it? So people’s feelings don’t get hurt? It just seems extra PC to me. A rule saying you can’t promote your industry is dumb to me because I do photography, but no one would know unless I told them. So if no one knows I’m a photographer and I go on the same thread and say the same thing as a pro (such as “definitely buy your album from your professional photographer, the quality will be better”) and not get in any trouble. If that is the case then there should be a distinction between who is a pro and who isn’t. Because well no one is technically a “pro” so can’t anyone just say what they want?

Post # 10
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

To be frank. When I was wedding planning I joined the Bee for inspiration and the comradery of others in the same situation as me.

Not for advice of pros/vendors. When I just joined there were hardly any pros on here.

To me that’s not what the community of WB is about. I don’t come on here to ask for advice of pros.

I come on here for comradery of others in a similar situation. Which is why I came back post wedding planning because there are others on here now going through TTC and pregnancy and soon babies.

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

@regberadaisy: I joined for the same reasons. But since joining a couple years ago I started my own photography business. So part of me wants to respond to threads as just “me” but since I’m a photographer it seems like my opinions regarding the “industry” of photography aren’t welcome.

Post # 14
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Bee Keeper

If members (pros or not) don’t want to be part of WB and follow the rules, then they should leave. Many people join to get other brides’ opinions or advice, when I joined WB I never even knew there were pros on here. I don’t understand why the only industry that has an issue with the bee is the photography industry, whats up with that? I also don’t understand WHY pro photogs stick around “on their own dime” when they don’t feel like they are needed/wanted/appreciated by the community or by the people who run the show. [Content removed for baiting]

Post # 15
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

@USER876: I mean thats the part thats not fair. So if you’re a user without a photography business you can say whatever you want about the photography industry, but if you are you have to keep your mouth shut.

 @MrsNeutrino: Just leave? That’s really harsh considering tons of people have actually benefited from the advice of pro photographers here. Not so much myself because I’m a new photographer but still.

Post # 16
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2142 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

@kate169:

but since I’m a photographer it seems like my opinions regarding the “industry” of photography aren’t welcome.

I can’t speak for others. But for me, it’s not that it’s not welcomed, I just personally don’t ask for it. To me photography is subjective and I know other photographers would disagree. I can LOVE a photography style and another can HATE it. To me that’s why I personally never post do you like so and so photographer. The only opinion that mattered to me when I was searching was my husbands. I could care less what another pro thought of the photographer we had chosen.

Which is quite frankly to me, not the reason why I joined WB.

But, I do, know for many others the opinion of a photographer and other pros ARE valued.

For me, I can take it or leave. Just my opinion.

To me this is the same thread when a member posts about not liking a new rule. If you don’t like it leave. Doesn’t make a difference to me if you’re a bride planning a wedding or pro choosing to spend his/her time on here. At the end of the day we are all just a member of the community.

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