(Closed) The new Pope

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Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

I thought he showed a lot of humility in his first moments as Pope, asking the world for their blessing and also in his choice of name. I hope he plans to continue St Francis’ legacy of campaigning for the poor and disenfranchised, particularly in his part of the world. He is by all accounts a fairly low-key personality, taking buses and living in a small apartment in BA rather than the archbishop’s palace etc.

I had been hoping for a Pope from the emerging world, because I think these developing economies are in most dire need of spiritual guidance right now. Remains to be seen how reform-minded Francis will be though, from what I’ve read he is still quite conservative when it comes to same-sex marriage. 

Post # 4
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

He seems more down-to-earth and less Emporer Palpatine-ey than Benedict (whose first public address called Buddhists evil, etc) and he has done a lot of ACTUAL charitable work with AIDS patients and people in hospices/orphanages.  
However his staunch opposition to same-sex marriage is disconcerting.  The world is changing, and while you can’t really expect the POPE to be all for it, I would hope they could start showing some level of acceptance with that of the modern world.  He said same sex adoptions are discriminatory to children which just breaks my heart.  How many children would love a wonderful family, HAVE a wonderful family, with two moms or two dads?  What about children (adopted or not) in homes with criminals, abusers, or generally bad parents…parents who may claim to be Catholic/religious?  I think this pope could do a lot of good, and he seems nice, but I hate the general hypocrisy of the church…

Post # 5
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2012

I dont understand why the media is making a big deal about a “new world” pope.  He’s first generation, his parents are from italy.  He’s still an Italian like an enourmous chunk of the argentine population.

Post # 6
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Blushing bee

he is just as conservative anti-civil rights as the last one. lame.

Post # 7
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2018

All I know about him is that he only has one lung. 

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: February 2015

My mom “has a good feeling about him” whatever that means. She said he sounded pretty humble & very focused on helping people which seems like a nice change. I was hoping for a bit more of a progressive pope but I guess progressive & catholic aren’t 2 things that go together too well. I was a bit surprised how quickly they came to a decision. It seemed quick anyway.

Post # 9
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

@soontobemrsm11:  Yeah, I was expecting it to go on for days and days. They took even less time with Benedict, only four votes. I have to admit, the whole smoke-watching process has been pretty compelling and hilarious. I’ve enjoyed watching the CNN coverage with a bunch of anchors, journalists and special guests trying to think of things to say about a live shot of the chimney. 

Post # 10
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Newbee

@tangentialbee:  While I totally understand your disappointment, I think it’s unrealistic to ever expect or hope that a priest, especially a cardinal, will be pro-choice/pro gay-marriage, at least in our lifetime.  It’s easy for an old man who has never been married and never had a family of his own to see everything in black and white.  I hope that one day priests can marry, and then I think these things will change.

Franciscans are sworn to a vow of poverty so I like that he’s maintaining that even though he’s the pope. 

I respect and appreciate that he asked people to pray for the gay community, but hope it wasn’t because he thinks they need salvation for being gay, but rather because of the hate they’re faced with.

Post # 11
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

The whole thing is interesting but I don’t really expect much change.

Post # 12
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

Catholicism in Europe and North America is diminishing as the developed countries become more and more liberal. Where most of the Catholics are now is in South America, Africa and the Philippines. I am so happy that he hails from Argentina, as I think he will have a much deeper outlook on the poor and how important social justice is.

The US and Europe are just not interested in that…all anyone can talk about is hatred towards ALL Catholics with the sex abuse and same sex marriage, because that’s what’s important to people here. Those two issues are repeated CONSTANTLY. Nobody can remember the good, the soup kitchens, hospitals, and social outreach for the poor that happens here. 

I sincerely hope he can remind us all what were here for. To love and take care of one another.

Post # 13
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2013

His anti-gay stance sucks.  I’m glad he did work for the poor, but whatever.   

 

And I think the Catholic church could change if they wanted to.  The Episcopal Church has gay bishops…and God is like, hey that’s cool.  Notice how there is no smiting going on?

Post # 14
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

@peachacid:  lol! i totally agree. my mom is episcopalian and her church had a lesbian bishop for awhile. i’m sure there were some people who didn’t agree but most everyone was very accepting of it.

Post # 15
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

I’m surprisingly pleased. He’s as close to a “moderate” pope as we could have gotten with this bunch of cardinals. There are no cardinals that are pro-gay and pro-abortion — it just doesn’t happen. There were only 14 cardinals considered progressive/moderate this time around, and he’s one of them.

I really liked his first public address too.

Post # 16
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2012

@laurel946:  I read your Post as saying Argentina isn’t a developed country, which is incorrect. it has poor regions like any other country. He’s also from the Capitol which is the 5th largest city in the world and strongly European influenced. If they were going to elect the first non eu pope picking one from Argentina is like choosing the distant cousin. It’s a safe choice.  Not to knock, all the work he’s done for the poor. I do hope that Continues. 

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