Post # 1
Last time I checked, an entire section of the human population was not enslaved and murdered b/c of their weight and it’s a ridiculous argument.
Insults hurt period. Why has this become a question of who’s hurt more?
I give up.
Anyone else need help finding a veil? Anyone?
Post # 3
ha at the veil. Did someone insuinuate that the two were the same? Yes, noth are bad but come on.
Post # 4
I borrowed my sister’s veil from 3 years ago. Waste not, want not! Try Craig’s list. So much money for just a little tulle!
Post # 5
@heather25: Yes, I just read this on the “which insult would you prefer” thread.
I’d prefer not to be insulted.
Post # 6
@jjmomma:agreed!!!! good post.
Post # 7
Why would you start a whole new thread about this? I don’t understand why it couldn’t have been discussed in the other thread where people were already commenting on this topic. I agree with you, but this seems a bit much.
Post # 8
@Aure: Because I didn’t want it to get lost in the mix.
Post # 9
@Aure: Well JJMomma was actually following proper procedure. I haven’t read the other thread but it could be a threadjack.
Post # 10
I can’t believe anyone would equate the two. No comparison whatsoever.
Post # 11
It is true that racism has a much bloodier and more dangerous history than weight discrimination, but there are certain similarities – it isn’t as simple as a straight comparison.
For instance, when it comes to employment, people who are overweight or obese face significant discrimination in finding and keeping a job, as well as in obtaining promotions, especially women. They also tend to be paid less than colleagues who weigh less. This can be compared to the racist discrimination people face around employment, although it isn’t identical, obviously. I would be interested in stats on the extent of discrimination faced by overweight WOC.
I should actually be working right now, so I don’t have time to look up all the studies etc that I have seen in the past. For now, here is this story from USA today (I only skimmed it, but I think it addresses a few of my points).
ETA: Oh, I haven’t read that other thread all the way – I didn’t realize that somebody said “these two things are exactly the same.” Hopefully it is clear that I do not believe they are, just that there are points of comparison.
Post # 12
Agreed, insults are rude regardless of the their topic or subject.
I will note, that an entire (or most of it at least) gender being enslaved by the ideal of beauty that society portrays as perfection is pretty brutal to say the least. While certainly the issue of racial discrimination is much more deeply rooted and a heavier topic, I wouldn’t write off weight discrimination as it is alive and thriving and there are as the PP mentioned striking similarities.
Post # 13
I believe that all discrimination should be weighted equally and dealt with harshly.
Discrimination is wrong and saying one is less wrong than the other makes it ok in society and it stems from the same source.
Maybe it is time to look in the mirror and ask yourself am I excusing my discriminatory behavior in light of what is popular in society.
Post # 14
Its not “enslavement” – its cultural obsession. I think its ridiculous to associate that with slavery.
In general, free citizens living in a democratic country should just avoid comparing things using very emotionally loaded terms like slavery, genocide, or the Holocaust- because its going to sound melodramatic and insulting unless it actually IS genocide, slavery, or the Holocaust.
Post # 15
Not to sound like a jerk, but slavery ended A LONG TIME AGO. Yes, there is still racial discrimination not only of African Americans but of MANY OTHER races too. But you can’t go on living in the past. You or no one alive in your family was enslaved so why should THAT still matter for this argument? I see where you are coming from but to use slavery as saying that it’s a worse discrimination that being called too fat or too skinny is absolutely ridiculous.
I must agree that they ARE the same thing. discimintion is discrimination and one is not better or worse than the other. To say that is very ignorant In My Humble Opinion.
This is a really silly thread. I don’t even see what the issue is.
Post # 16
I was the one who said that. I said IF someone were to COMPARE the two arguments, this is how silly it would sound. Of course it’s a hyperbole, and of course I do not equate the two. Use some common sense here.