(Closed) Thoughts on Penn Sate

posted 8 years ago in College
  • poll: Should Joe Paterno have been fired?
    Yes, he should have done more to protect the victims : (106 votes)
    77 %
    No, he did what was required under the law : (21 votes)
    15 %
    Unsure : (11 votes)
    8 %
    Other : (0 votes)
  • Post # 17
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    Buzzing bee

    @MapleMoose:  I believe they are currently on administrative leave while the investigation continues.  Firing Joe was obviously going to get them a lot more publicity.

    Post # 18
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: August 1900

    @Moose1209:  Oh ok, I just haven’t heard any mention of what is happening with them in the news clips.  Thanks for the update.

    Post # 19
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: November 1999

    There are a huge number of people in the community that are responsible for the continuation of abuse, but all I can say is that if someone came in and told me that he witnessed one of the people I work closest with anally raping a 10 year old in a shower, I would be a hell of a lot more upset than he obviously was. Especially since he had been caught in the showers before with a child. I’m sorry but people talk, and enough people knew something was wrong that this whole thing is disgusting. 

    Here’s an interesting timeline:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/penn-state-scandal-timeline-jerry-sandusky_n_1084204.html

    Post # 22
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: August 2010

    @hisgoosiegirl: YES. That’s the thing. Imagine if we all just lived by the letter of the law. If you see someone being beaten out on the street, do you just tell someone else or do you call the cops?? You are not legally obligated to do anything about the situation, but morality should outweigh that.

    Post # 23
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: November 1999

    I agree with the decision to fire him. I think the rioting students are a bit short-sighted. 

    If a school teacher can get fired for not reporting abuse to the police, then why shouldn’t he? 

    How would you feel if you were the victim(s) or victims’ families? 

    Post # 24
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: November 1999

    As a Penn State Alum, this is what I posted on facebook, yesterday.

    Not happy about them letting go Paterno but if he needs to go, I think there should be a few others that need to go, too! Joe Paterno was a great coach and will be missed. I’m a proud Penn State Alum and always will be. I’m disgusted and shocked about this whole scandal. We are… going to get through this. We are… PENN STATE!


    This is what  I posted this morning…

    To Non-Staters by Beth Painter

    We know you don’t understand. Generally, we don’t try to explain. Unless you are a Buckeye or Fighting Irish, you probably don’t get how an institution embeds itself in a student’s life. And that is fine.

    But right now, we want you to know this:

    We are distraught and truly sickened by this horror perpetrated on young victims by one who represented the Blue and White, and perpetuated by others at the University. We aren’t blind followers who drink Blue Kool-Aid. We grieve for and with the victims and their families. We pray for them to find healing and peace and a way to live a good life.

    We know that while many people had responsibility, the most visible one almost always goes down first. We are not disputing the need for this to happen.

    We are not “defending” anything. We are simply crushed and heartbroken. This is not the Penn State we love, the Penn State that is part of our being.

    What you know of Joe Paterno probably comes from television or magazine articles. We know the man who has lived in the same McKee St house for decades. We have chatted with him as he walked to practice. We have eaten ice cream with him at the Creamery. We have studied in the new library wing his money helped build. We have visited the sports museum and spiritual center he also helped build. We have seen him cheering on other Penn State athletes. We know he loves Penn State as much as we do.

    Some of our friends, brothers, husbands, sons have been privileged to put on the Blue and White uniform and listen to 100,000 fans in Beaver Stadium. We know how hard they have worked, how much time they have devoted, how many of them have been part of an excellent scholar/athlete legacy…and how much they love this man and this program.

    We aren’t stupid or naive. We know Joe Paterno has culpability. We know he could have made different choices – he admitted that. We don’t think he is God or always perfect or saintly. But he is the greatest college football coach ever, and he is PSU family, and we don’t want his exit to be like this.

    WE ARE…not closing our eyes, ignoring reports, pretending this isn’t a wretched occurrence.

    WE ARE…angry that innocents would be violated under our care.

    WE ARE…in support of appropriate punishment for every person involved.

    WE ARE…demanding change to a system that would allow this.

    WE ARE…not concerned if you do not understand our love and devotion.

    WE ARE….PENN STATE and we will rise again

    Post # 25
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: November 1999

    I agree that rioting isn’t the best thing to do, right now.  I think the students are pissed and being at a big university likem that it’s easy to jump on the band wagon and riot because everyone else is.  Personally, if I was still in school there, I would not be rioting. I’m hoping that the students there realize this. I know it’s sad we lost a great coach but we will get through this.

    Post # 26
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    Worker bee

    As a PSU Alum I am sickened over this whole issue!  Joa Pa was more than just a coach! He did so much for his players, the school, all the students and the community as a whole.  He deserves more than just a phone call firing him after 46 yrs!!!!!!!!!!

    Post # 27
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: April 2011

    I feel bad for Paterno. He’s an old man who spent decades working for the school and working hard…he’s not a bad person. It’s terribly sad he had to exit like that. Though what choice did the school have? It’s a horrific situation that never should have happened to begin with.

    What stuns me is that Paterno, who didn’t witness the assaults and reported the attacks within the law (regardless of whether it was enough), got fired.

    McQueary, the then-28 assistant who allegedly did witness an assault and didn’t go to the police, will be coaching the PSU game on Saturday.

    !!!

    Post # 28
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2012

    I read the grand jury report yesterday morning.  Absolutely horrifying and disgusting.  Those poor boys.  Everyone involved (knowing wise) deserves what is coming to them.

    Post # 29
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: July 2011

    When my nephew’s home life was spiraling out of control and his mother refused to listen to reason, Child Services was called.  No we didn’t want to call, but if we didn’t step in, my nephew could’ve been yet another “bad” kid caught up in the system.  Our family discussed this issue for a week and then the call was made.  Our relationship w/ his mother went from worse to non-existent, but it was worth it.  My nephew is now thriving and believes he has a future.   It only took one phone call.  And that is what I expect of every adult.  One phone call to the Child Services or the police. 

    Post # 30
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: September 2010

    http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011/11/09/2264431/focus-should-be-on-jerry-sandusky.html

    This article says it better than I could… basically that I’m sick of hearing all the drama about JoePa and NOTHING about the actual predator. Because in essence, while they allowed the football program to supercede the real problem at the time and not report that incident, WE are doing the same thing by focusing on a football program and a famous man, not the victims and the true offender. Joe Paterno heard about it second-hand and he told his AD, as he should have, and the AD covered it up and dropped the ball. Yes, he should’ve called the police, even he says so. But this witch hunt is overkill considering there’s a real monster out there that DIDN’T do his legal duty and DIDN’T change 45 years worth of students lives for the best.

    Post # 31
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: September 2010

    @Minutiae: McQueary was the GA who WITNESSED it? Well then excuse my French but that’s bullshit. He should be fired just as quickly (or more!) than Paterno. That’s a sickening double standard IMO.

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