Post # 77
@spaniel: I agree with you about the Tiffany shopping experience! If I were looking for a luxury brand, I don’t think I would choose Tiffany, either. The Manhattan store seems to be overrun with people all the time. I’ve been in there a few times with friends who are ring shopping, and I can’t wait to get out every time. But, they’ve got great ads and high-quality products, for sure, so I understand the desire to buy into the whole experience.
Once the ring is on your finger, no one will know where it came from. So I say get something that is beautiful and meaningful to YOU. If that means having a Tiffany ring, then go for it.
Post # 78
@KatNYC2011: I agree with you there. I’m just saying that Tiffany doesn’t sell crappy diamonds. You can’t walk in there and buy a cloudy, poorly cut diamond with eye-visible inclusions.
Post # 79
@stillme: Tiffany in Manhattan is terrible! I went there with a friend to try on engagement rings and the sales lady was rude and dismissive. I asked her if they had smaller sizes to try on (since my fingers are tiny) and she just said “No, this is all we have.” Then I asked her if she had a sizer (so I could know my ring size) and she just said “No”.
I asked her to write down information on some the rings I tried on and she just handed me a book and said “here’s our engagement ring catalog.”
Fiance had a bad experience at David Yurman in the city as well. He went in there to look at rings. They asked him how much he wanted to spend and they just said, “Yeah we don’t really do engagement rings under $40k for a 1c”.
Post # 80
I’d go with the no name ring. I couldn’t care less about the Tiffany name. MOst people wouldn’t even know it’s from Tiffanys in the first place. To me it seems like people just want the little blue box and the ring from Tiffany so they can show off. I’m not talking about a guy who decides to go and buy a ring from that store himself. I’m talking about the chicks who pretty much demand a ring from a specific store. I don’t know, I guess do whatever is most important to you.
Post # 82
This post is too funny. I am a guy and I am about to purchase a Tiffany ring for my gal. I am not a Tiffany loyalist and I am not defending Tiffany but some of these comments are just about hating.
So you have a jewler that tells you that you can have better quality or that they can get you something good. Of course they are going to tell you that. They want your business as much as the next guy. The truth is that you can buy a bigger ring else where, you can also buy a better quality ring else where. But it ends there. You are not paying for the name, nor are you just paying for a blue box. You are paying for an experience.
They do have upgrade policies in place as I have asked. Most important to me was the “post-purchase” experience which is the convenience of going to any Tiffany store to have free cleaning, repairing, sizing, etc. The deciding factor was the gleam in my girlfriends eye when she tried on a Novo.
Tiffany (and other high-end retailers) put a lot of money down on designing these things (which are highly copied by other jewlers). This is partly reflected in the price. We all place value on things and to me, I think it is worth getting something that is original and not a replica. Tiffany or not, a ring should symbolize your love and what your significant other wants to get for you. I would be highly concerned if all my girl cares about is a big diamond. My GF told me that she would never trade in her original ring because it has significant emotional value to her. To me, she is saying that wherever your ring comes from, it doesn’t matter, it’s the memories that are important.
Let’s stop the hating here because if your man presented a blue box to you, you’ll love it just as much as what you got now. I mean just because my friend has a Porsche and I have a Lexus, doesn’t mean I enjoy my car any less. They are both nice cars it’s just that they both present different driving experiences.
Post # 83
@KatNYC2011: I 100% completely agree with everything you said 🙂 I do recognize there is a markup. Honestly, I never was a Tiffany’s girl until I started dating my Darling Husband. The story between us comes from a conversation we had one night when he was deployed to Iraq. Tiffany’s was brought up once and only once and then almost a year later he proposed with a Tiffany’s ring. Considering that when we had the conversation, he was going on 1 hour of sleep in the last 48 hours, I was amazed he remembered the part about Tiffany’s. So, I’m just super sentimental whenever I look at my ring…takes me back to the deployment and everything it took for us to get where we are now.
On that note, I still always scold myself for loving something that has a huge markup because I am literally the type that will calculate per ounce how much cereal costs. lol But…we’ve only bought our wedding rings there, so I guess I haven’t fallen prey to them too much. lol
Post # 84
I love Tiffanys. But if you really want the blue box have Fiance buy you a beautiful necklace there for $200.
Then put the rest of the money into a bigger/better ring. It really is silly to spend the money JUST on the name when you can get a bigger and better ring somewhere else. With Tiffany’s yes you get quality (of course) but it’s not that substainly bigger quality where it makes that big a difference.
Post # 85
@KatNYC2011: I know you mentioned it several times so I just thought I’d clarify – Tiffany diamonds are not graded by GIA, they’re graded by “Tiffany Gemological Laboratory”. Supposedly, TGL has stricter standards than GIA, but whatever.. You can still get an E VVS2 Ideal elsewhere for cheaper than a F VS1 @ Tiffany.
Also, the original poster already made her decision and is going the custom route. Her Fiance is going to design her an e-ring. Still, I think the brand name v. anywhere else is worth debating.
For the record, I agree with you (KatNYC). I love everything brand name.. BUT I couldn’t justify the price difference for an E-Ring. To be honest, the thing that bothers me about their e-rings is that (with the exception of a few) they’re sooo generic looking. So, I would have to go around telling people it’s from T&Co., which is fine here in wb world, but in real life it’s soooooooo tacky. And yes, I know people who do this.
Post # 86
It’s not about “hating.” I think jewelry consumers now are getting more educated about diamond buying in general. Tiffany perks aside, the fact remains, their markup is INSANE.
It’s not enough anymore for Tiffany reps to say “Well, this is a Tiffany diamond, so it’s of the highest quality.” Like KatNYC said, a GIA report is a GIA report. I customer can go into any store and request one on any diamond. Tiffany’s sells beautiful diamonds, but that just means they maintain a standard about the specs on the diamonds they sell. So a lot of people are saying, hey if you want the Tiffany brand for whatever reasons, that’s fine. But it’s not because you’re going to be guaranteed a better diamond. You can get a fantastic diamond anywhere at a reasonable price if you’re willing to do your homework and not just accept that only big name brands have the best product.
***ETA I am also very skeptical of in-house grading reports, because the stone is not graded through an unbiased source. I once looked into buying a colored stone ring from Tiffany and getting info about their stone treatments was like pulling teeth. When I finally got to it, I was shocked. Untouched sapphires and emeralds are VERY pricey because they are rare. It’s rare to find a sapphire that hasn’t been modified for color or clarity. But Tiffany sells gems at top dollar price that have been dyed, heated, filled, you name it. Where do the lab reports come from? Why Tiffany’s, of course.
Post # 87
The reason why it’s generic looking is because Tiffany has the designs that are copied by many other people/jewlers. You don’t have to tell others that it is a Tiffany so long as you know what you got. What’s tacky is trying to pass something off as a Tiffany when it’s not. However, immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Post # 88
@trojanwr21: Many web retailers have good policies as well. My ring came from an online retailer with free resizing, repair, cleaning, etc as well.
My ring is the exact same style as the tiffany novo and people have recognized it as that.
Some of tiffany’s designs are unique, but others really aren’t.
I don’t hate tiffany’s I have a lot of tiffany jewlery that I love.
There are MANY high quality places to get great diamonds and great rings. There are places to get just as high quality and as good post service as tiffany for 1/2 the price.
I just believe on doing your reseach and not overpaying if you don’t have to/if the brand doesn’t mean everything to you.
Post # 89
@KatNYC2011:No problem, I feel you. I think many people should do their research and get what is of value to them and that would be unique to their situation. I’m just stating what my point of view is from a guy perspective which doesn’t happen much on this board.
Post # 90
@Chiotilidieo: No we decided to get the rings in white gold because when we tried on platium, we couldn’t see a noticeable difference that warrented the extra cost.
Do you think platinum is worth it?
Post # 91
@trojanwr21: Jewelers have copied them, but I really don’t see anything special about “the tiffany solitaire setting” or even the novo. The way the cushion is cut on the novo is what makes it special. The band is just a simple bead set pave band.
The only standouts for me are the Jean Schlumberger rings and the 2 versions of the Legacy.
Then again, I wasn’t really looking for a simple setting, so that could be why I don’t appreciate the details of their simple settings.