Post # 47
@MrsUPS: Just wanted to point out that in many states in the US, you can legally be fired for your sexual orientation, so having a picture on your desk of your same sex partner could directly lead to you losing your job. The big sports organizations may have rules prohibiting this, but if they don’t, theoretically if you’re playing in a state without this protection, you could be fired. Also, Jason Collins hasn’t played in a single game since he came out. So I guess at this point he and Michael Sam are in the same boat, but when Sam plays in his first game, he’ll be the first openly gay player in any of the big 4 to actually play. And that’s a big deal, because that involves changing, and possibly showering, with his teammates. Part of homophobia is assuming he’d be lusting after them.
Anyways, back to the topic at hand, Tebow isn’t treated the way he is because he’s Christian, it’s because he’s a bad NFL player AND obnoxious. I’m a 49ers fan, and not Christian, and I find it a little obnoxious when he kisses the Christian-themed tattoos on his biceps, but hey, whatever, as long as he plays well.
Post # 48
- Wedding: December 2014 - 13th ~ TN
@ladyamalthea: Actually most states are ‘At Will Employment’ states, that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals ‘for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all’. So they can fire you for being straight too or the color of your shoes if they choose to do so. I bet the homosexual who got fired is more likely to win a lawsuit than a striaght person too.
Anyway, I find Tebow obnoxious too, I also find the fact that he “kisses cross tattoos” repulsive. If he is such a good Christian why does he even have tattoos when the Bible clearly says it is a sin?
Post # 49
@MrsUPS: I think she meant the 49ers QB Kaepernick. Tebow doesn’t have tattoos.
Post # 50
@TwoCityBride: As a Christian.. I can’t stand Tebow and the crap surrounding him. Isn’t prayer supposed to be a private moment anyway? I can’t recall the last time I stood on my roof and shouted to everyone that I was about to pray..
Post # 51
@MrsUPS: workers in at will states can be fired for any reason except protected ones around identity: gender, race, disability – it’s accepted in law that one should not be fired for one’s identity, and in some states the law protects sexual orientation as well. But those lawsuits are extremely hard to win, you basically have to have it in writing or said in front of witnesses that that’s why you are being fired. So no, a gay person doesn’t have an easier lawsuit in a firing unrelated to their sexuality. They are, however, much more likely to be fired for it in a manner that’s impossible to prove.
Post # 52
Actually there a difference which I pointed out between Christian football fans and Tim Tebow fans . I think they get it because they get football , Tim Tebow fans don’t. I tend to find UF fans are the most delusional even compared to them , to be frank no one but you guys care about what Tim Tebow did in 2007,2006, or 2005.
John Elway had a couple of rough years especially in his three yeras. It’s expected that rookies will have a rough time. Tebow got worse as time went on. He was ranked either last or second to last compared to every quarterback actively on a rooster and that including backup ones.
The New Crop of quarterbacks Kaepernick, Newtown, Wilson, Luck, all are runners and out of pocket players. That being said every single last one of them had to adjust and improved their numbers while in pocket. If you compare Tebow seems to be stuck in his style of play from UF which works in college, but isn’t going to work in the NFl with larger bigger more physical players.
Given how he compares to others with the same time frame in the NFL, what don’t you and othe UF fans get about that? Tim Tebow is a typical story that happen to many people, there are so many first round drafts, who were superstars in college and couldn’t make it in the NFL.
For the record I do think he is a nice person. I actually think he is smart in how he handles himself and his business when it comes to endorsemnts and what now. I just think he is a sucky football player, sorry!
Post # 53
Ive always found it to be an interesting subject, Christianity has always had a strong identity as a “persecuted religion.” It’s a strong part of how they have always viewed themselves, it’s nothing new. Persecution (true or not) has historically been used by the church to advance Christianity. Some of that mentality definitely continues today.
That being said I dont like UF so I always found Tim Tebow annoying for that reason alone.