Post # 1
Our venue, which is also our caterer, automatically charged us a 20% service charge. I specifically asked them if that covered the tip, and they said no. According to some of the threads I’ve read here, an automatically charged service charge IS the tip. Someone please tell me whether we need to tip them or not! Thanks.
Post # 3
service charge means you’re being charged for service. dont tip additional! 15% is standard so you’re already going above.
Restaurants and banquet halls charging service charges in lieu of tips must distribute them to their wait staff in some U.S. states (e.g., Massachusetts, New York, Montana), but in the State of Kentucky may keep them.
Post # 4
Yes, you need to tip them. A service charge is not a tip
Post # 5
I would have tipped my venue if they didn’t charge the 20% service charge. I’ve heard both sides of the argument, but 20% was a huge amount to pay extra on top of already inflated prices and regardless of how it’s explained to me I don’t understand how that isn’t thier tip.
Post # 6
I treated the service charge as a tip, ours was 21% and I just wasn’t going to pay anything on top of that.
Post # 7
I would not pay a tip on top of that. Ours charges 18% so not far off from yours. We were going over our budget last night and our taxes and service charge are more than our alcohol.
In our case, they should be happy that they get to open their restaurant on a Sunday when they’re not normally open & they get to bring in a ton of $!
Post # 8
Are you planning on tipping the servers separately, as the venue is also the caterer? I agree that tipping the venue on top of a service charge is unnecessary, but the servers will not see a dime of that service charge. They need to be tipped separately. Because your venue is also your caterer makes it more complicated than just refusing to tip the venue on top of the service charge.
Post # 9
The way it was explained to me for my venue is that the service charge is NOT a tip, however they pay their waitstaff a good rate (for instance, 15 dollars an hour and not like a 3 dollar an hour waiter that depends on tips) so they don’t depend on tips.
You still do need to tip a little something but in my opinion you do NOT need to give another 20 percent for the waitstaff.
Post # 10
Our “service charge” is 20%, and they charge tax on the service charge! I am not giving anyone anything more.
Post # 11
Nope, unless I got outstanding service (which I did not) I was not going to give more than the service charge. There were 2 things they didn’t do that they were supposed to do, so they definitely weren’t getting any more of my money!
Post # 12
The service charge covers the cost of paying the servers, and like a PP mentioned they are paid a good wage and not the $3/hour that restaurant waitstaff are paid (I think one of the caterers I met told me their staff was paid $35/hour) so a tip is not necessary. If you feel like you received extraordinary service you could certainly tip them, but it doesn’t need to be based on a % of the catering cost.
Post # 13
On principle, I would not give an extra tip unless they exceeded my expectations grandly. 20% is a HUGE surcharge, and since a tip is theoretically supposed to be for “service” (nevermind that service “above & beyond” seems to have been forgotten), I say they can forget getting an extra tip!
Post # 14
Our “service charge” was 21%. I would NEVER tip on top of that. (I hate the idea of a “required tip” anyhow, which is what I view it as. I mean, if you’re going to charge us more, then why don’t you just charge us more? And not pretend like it’s a “gratuity?”)
If your venue said that doesn’t include the tip…then what the H does it cover?
Post # 15
@Krises: Actually, that depends on where she lives. Someone else already posted about this.
Post # 16
Oh hells no. No way am I paying more than the 20% service charge on the already WAY overinflated meal. NO. I will tip my dj and others who are not included in that 20% rule, but NO WAY am I tipping servers, bartenders etc. When they said all inclusive and they tacked on a 20% charged I assumed that meant all inclusive