(Closed) To all you dog owners and lovers…your thoughts on Cesar Millan?

posted 8 years ago in Pets
Post # 3
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

I read alot about dog training.  I like a lot of his methods.  I also like Brad Pattison – At the End of my Leash.  All in all though it comes down to consistant training at home and gaining the alpha roll.

Post # 4
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: April 2010

I’m personally not a fan at all of Cesar Millan. I prefer Victoria Stilwell’s positive reinforcement methods. Her show is “It’s Me or the Dog” on Animal Planet. Her book is also amazing!

Post # 5
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

His walking/leash techniques helped me reel in my loving and adorable but very much leash-hating (he used to be that way) Boston terrier.

Post # 6
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

My Fiance love his show and lived by his leash training method and it worked!!

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I like him. I have also read things on the internet that were negative. He never hits the dogs, or rubs their nose in feces so I never had a problem with him. We trained FIL’s pitbull using most of his techiques and he is the BEST dog! Lately I have seen him using a prong collar, not sure if it was his or the owners but I don’t like that.

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2009

I have only seen ONE EPISODE of his show, because we don’t get the channel with our tv package, (DARN YOU, DIRECTV, FOR NOT HAVING ALA CARTE OPTIONS ALLOWING ME TO ADD ONLY ONE OR TWO EXTRA CHANNELS!!!!), so I really can’t comment about him personally.  The episode I saw was fine, but I’ve HEARD because he learns so strongly toward gaining the dominance role that some of his methods could be dangerous for an inexperienced owner.

Like bluestuff said, I LOVE Victoria Stillwell.  I like that she is a strong, no-nonsense female who will tell the owners like it is, and doesn’t put up with any BS from the dogs, either.  My DVR is set to record every episode, old or new.  Her method is based on the belief that you need to be a leader, and that this can be achieved through positive reinforcement and ignoring, as opposed to aggressive methods like alpha rolls, etc., which can provoke the dog to act aggressively, (mind you I am not saying this is what Ceasar does, because I don’t watch his show). 

Post # 9
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

I love his methods.  Especially the part about how dogs cannot rationalize.  I think this is very important for people to realize.  There is the sweetest lady in my complex who has two very cute but aggressive dogs.  I think she encourages them when they bark and growl because she says sweetly, “It’s okay Jasper…”

One of my dogs is so in the moment, if he hears a loud noise and jumps up and sees food, he will lung for it, as if the food is the only thing that ever woke him.  He is SO in the moment, and it really determines the way I have to deal with him.  My other dog, however, is much more smart and distant.  She has more of a capacity for remembering, etc. 

Post # 10
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2010

Definitely not a fan, my personal opinion is that you get more out of any animal by treating it with kindness and bribery (food motivation/positive reinforcement) and not dominance.  I do however love the South Park that makes fun of him!

Post # 11
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

He is all about positive reinforcement.  And my second dog could care less about food.

Post # 12
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

I have mixed feelings about him. On one hand, I’ve seen him do some amazing things and I think he really does understand about dog psychology. On the other hand, his techniques are not right for every dog. I think his focus is so much on “aggressive” breeds, and I agree that they should be used in ANY situation where the owner is having Alpha/aggressive issues. However, some breeds (retired racing greyhounds for example, and of course there’s always exceptions to the general) don’t really have a need for a hugely strong Alpha figure. My poor chicken hound is a love and sooooo Omega it’s laughable. Positive reinforcement is always best, but you can’t spoil the dog and it is absolutely essential that the owners remain Alpha. 

 

Ultimately, you know your dog, and you probably know if he/she is more dominant than you, AND the show does warn to consult a professional.

Post # 13
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

I’m sure we’ve all used food in our training methods but this is not teaching the dog to behave for you, it’s teaching it to behave to the food.  You difinatly need to show your dog who the pack leader is. 

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

Our dogs became MUCH more well behaved and respectful after we started channeling his mind set.  It’s not that we were lax or had badly behaved dogs before hand they just improved as we were more conscious of the signals we were giving them.  It also worked well with a neighbor’s German Shorthair that we watched for the summer.  Dude was obnoxious.  All he needed to learn was that he wasn’t the boss and he became much more relaxed and happy.  We never even really did any strict obedience work with him either.  It was just everyday interactions.  Like Cesar says, he’s a dog psychologist, not a trainer. 

Obviously soft dogs aren’t going to need his strong techniques but I’ve only ever had one of those dogs.  Ever other one benefited greatly from a stricter hierarchy. 

As for Victoria Stillwell…  I haven’t seen too many of her episodes but I don’t agree with what I’ve seen.  Positive reinforcement is one thing but she’s way too soft in my opinion.  I saw one clip when the (very large) dog was jumping up on her and nipping her sleeve and she just attempted to turn away so that he wasn’t in her face and ignored him!  She obviously wasn’t in control of the situation and so needless to say, he kept jumping and nipping.  If that had been me I would have spun around and glared and that dog with a sharp Hey/No/Shht and made him sit.  It hasn’t failed me yet.  However I also dislike how she handles aggressive little dogs. 

To me, doing something because you’ll get a tasty treat and not because you were asked is not obedience.  (Not to say I never use treats.  I definitely do, but I also expect obedience even if I don’t have anything.)

ETA: I haven’t gotten to read it yet but I’ve heard very good things about Patricia McConnell (Author of The Other End of the Leash) in the border collie world (ie. typically much softer dogs).  I think she would be the person I turn to if Cesar’s methods weren’t suitable to a dog’s temperament.

Post # 15
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2010

I totally agree with his methods and his belief that dogs need to know that their owner is in control (but not out of fear or anything) I can’t stand when I go to someone’s house and their dog is barking, jumping, etc. Dogs need to be taught to behave..they do NOT run the house (or shouldn’t)…this is coming from a HUGE dog lover. But I can’t stand dogs that don’t behave. And I don’t blame the dog…9/10 times it’s not been trained…dogs need good training, routine, discipline (and I do not mean hitting-I don’t agree with that AT ALL) and lots of praise when they are good.  My two cents…

Post # 16
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2010

Two of the basic things that Cesar talks about are finding the right breed and the right dog for you (or your family) and excersise, exercise, exercise! I think those things are important across the board, no matter what dog trainer you are talking about. Consistency is also an important factor in Cesar’s books/shows. You need to be consistent in your approach and what you are asking of the dog. I really like Cesar’s methods, and utilize many aspects day to day with my dog. I especially like the way he demonstrates introducing new dogs to one another.

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