(Closed) to EGL or not to EGL..

posted 6 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

Just buy a higher quality one then πŸ™‚

Post # 4
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 2012

I’d vote no EGL.  They are extremely lax with their grading.

Post # 5
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Sugar bee

Mine was originally EGL but we immediately had it reappraised by a GIA person during our return window. It doesn’t get much respect in the community due to looser standards. Surprisingly though mine rated almost identically to our GIA appraisal. Even our GIA lady was surprised. I guess just take it with a grain of salt. Not all EGLs are are 1000% inaccurate.

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

In general, EGL is much looser than GIA and AGS in grading. For example, I think it’s generally at least 2 grades difference on color. When looking at EGL graded stones, you should compare them to lower ranking GIA/AGS stones.

Post # 7
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

Read this article:

http://www.truthaboutdiamonds.com/truth-about/diamond-certificates-gia-ags-igi-hrd-egl/egl/

To sum it up: You are not actually paying less for an EGL stone. A vendor has a decision to make when they receive a diamond. If the jeweler thinks the diamond is a high carat/color/clarity/cut they will send it to GIA becuase it will score high and the jeweler can sell it high. Whereas, if they think it will score low, they will send it to EGL who will rank it higher. In this instance, the jeweler profits more on the stone than they would have it GIA determined it to be a J/K color with an I1 inclusion. (essentially, you may as well buy the GIA I1, J/K color because it will be the same price if not cheaper than the EGL graded G/H color SI1- since it is the same stone, get it?)

“The companies who do use EGL for these stones are only doing it to make more money on the same stone.  So you have a choice.  You’re buying one stone.  Would you rather that stone have a GIA certificate that says I1 and the price will be less, or would you rather that stone have an EGL certificate that says SI2 and the price will be more?  Remember, it’s the same stone! The answer is obvious.”

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

If you have the option, definitely get at GIA certified diamond.

Post # 9
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

My stone is EGL and it’s amazing. D/ excellent/ si1. Fi compared it visually to other GIA stones and liked the cut and color of this one. Pick the one you love the look of regardless of the company that appraises it.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

@nhoh:  Totally agree with this 100%.

EGL gets such a bad rap. We looked at GIA and EGL stones side by side when shopping and in the large majority we didnt notice any difference. Pricescope did a small study and found that most EGL stones were graded roughly the same as GIA stones. While EGL tended to be more lax in color grading, it was never off by more than one grade, and furthermore there were stones that EGL was actually more strict on when it came to clarity. No one’s ever going to stop you on the street and ask if your diamond is GIA or EGL certified, so what’s really most important is that you love your diamond and its tiny imperfections. Check out the stone before buying it, if you think it shows too much color, don’t buy it even if it’s rated as an E. You can get a good deal with an EGL graded stone, it just takes a bit more looking. But just my two cents πŸ™‚

ETA: http://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamond-grading

Pricescope link! Such a pain to post links from my iPad. Haha. 

 

Post # 11
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Newbee

No to EGL for me. It’s usually not only 1-2 grades lower but more.

And usually our untrained eyes will not tell a different unless the cut, color, clarity are very far off from the one you are comparing with say like GIA. But when u have seen an excellent stone from GIA or AGS u will probably see why they sent it off to EGL but not the others.

Note: eventhough an excellent cut GIA stone sometime might not be that excellent and sparky the most. Its excellent grades have low and high too. U need to take the numbers(%) into consideration too.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

@littlegraykitten:  EGL USA ? Or EGL International? EGL USA is better then international.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

@allergicbee: Sorry, you’re right. I should clarify.  We were only looking at EGL USA diamonds and the Pricescope survey also looks at EGL USA. We were also only looking at excellent cut, G-colored or better, VS2 or better, so it could have had something to do with that. But I have a pair of EGL certified stud earrings and they’re just as white and sparkly as my GIA-certified engagement ring diamond with similar specs. Granted they’re in a setting so it’s harder to tell but my main point is you can’t just categorically dismiss all EGL stones on the basis of the certification, and even an untrained eye can tell the difference between multiple color grades when the diamonds are side by side. 

Post # 14
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

I say, if you like how it looks in person, against your skin tone, it doesn’t matter who appraises it, as long as you know you’re not getting ripped off. πŸ™‚

Post # 15
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

@Wanderlusty:  I have an EGL certification and I don’t regret it one bit.  Sure they have a more lax standards compared to GIA but sometimes it ranks the same as a GIA certification.  I got an independent appraisal and it was ranked the same as a GIA. πŸ™‚

Post # 16
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

@Dell79:  That’s what my appraiser told me! πŸ™‚

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