Post # 1
I really want to have a dog. My husband wants to have a dog too, but he says we cannot have a dog right now. We live in an appartment and we are away at work for 8 hours. On top of that I go to schoon in the afternoons so I’m out of the house from 7 AM to 7PM. My husband comes home at 4 PM so I could walk the dog in the morning before taking off and my husband can take the dog out at 4. He says that it is cruel to have a dog crated for 8 hours. My sister says dogs that are trained with a crate and have a big enough crate to move around do just ifne. I really want a dog, and wonder how do other people have dogs, do you have to not work to have a dog? I keep bringing the topic up but my husband insists that we cannot have a dog unless we have a house and a yard where the dog can move around. What do you guys think? how do you handle your pets?
Post # 3
@candycanes: I think if you have a slightly older dog (and not a puppy) who is crate trained then 8 hrs in a crate is ok as long as they get plenty of exercise and attention otherwise.
Also, could you spring for either a dog walker or doggie day care 2-3 times a week so your pup isn’t in a crate 8 hrs a day 5 days a week?
My sister has a dog and currently she’s crated for about 8 hrs a day during the work week. She is going to try and get her dog into doggie day care 2 days a week to break up the monotony a bit, but her dog is happy in her crate and well behaved.
Post # 4
I would say wait until you have a house. Especially of you want to get a puppy. A puppy cant be left in a crate for more than 4 hours at a time and it doesnt seem like either of you could be home to let him out. Its also alot more difficult to try and housetrain a dog when you are in an apartment.
Dogs are an awful lot more work than people think. And it would be better for the dog if he had a yard to play in instead of a small apartment with trips to the dog park infrequently.
As a new dog owner i definitely agree with your husband that waiting will make it much more enjoyable for all of you.
Post # 5
Also, I’m a firm believer that dogs should not be left unattended in the yard all day long. That usually leads to destructive behaviors (usually out of boredom) and could possibly lead to some aggressive behavior if the dog gets taunted in the yard by other neighborhood animals or children.
Depending on the breed of dog, leaving them unsupervised outside all day can be dangerous. If it’s a small dog then it could be picked up by birds of prey or other predators. If it’s a high value breed, it can become a target for dog-napping.
Post # 6
If you are thinking about getting a puppy, it might be hard as the puppy cannot be crated for 8 hrs because it needs to go out more often.
If you get an older dog who is already house broken, it should be fine. When I go to my office, our dog is in a crate for 8+ hrs a day. It’s completely fine.
Post # 7
As long as your dog is old enought (> 1), it should be able to handle being crated for 8 hours a day. Just make sure that you and your husband will be dilligent in making sure that the dog gets enough walks
Post # 8
We have a lab in an apartment and she does great! She is alone from 8am to 6pm every work day. We don’t crate her – she has the whole living area and kitchen to herself during the day. She just sleeps all day though and then plays in the evenings when we are home.
Post # 9
I am so PRO-DOG it’s not even funny. FH got our first dog as a suprise gift for when I moved in with him. She is my child, my love and my life. I love her more than anything else on the planet…until we got our second. Now I love both of my girls more than anything. I LIVE for them. They helped me control my baby fever, too. I don’t care where you live, how much money you have, ANYONE can have a dog if there is enough love in their heart. If you are feeling the puppy fever, DO IT! =) You will make it work!!!!!
Post # 10
That is what my dogs do. My FH is a firefighter and works 72 hours on so three days a week the dogs are entirely up to me, and I work 8-5 (on a good day, sometimes 7-6, 7 or 8). It was hard at the beginning because my lab was a little destructive, but that subsided quickly. We crate her while I am gone just because she actually like the crate now, it’s her den, her home and her safe haven.
Post # 11
I say wait. I think it’s really unfair to dogs who have to be crated for 8 hours a day. They aren’t meant to be locked in crates.
Plus, apartments are really small and don’t give enough space for the dog to play/exercise in. Unless it’s a tiny dog (pug/chihuahua size), I think you should wait until you have a house and a yard that’s big enough to accomodate a dog.
Post # 12
You really don’t need a yard to have a big dog.
In fact a lot of very large dogs (think great danes and mastiffs) are actually low energy and make great apartment dogs.
Also, dogs need mental as well as physical stimulation. Just opening the door to the yard and leaving them outside all day does NOT mean they’ll get the exercise they need.
They need long walks/runs with their people as well as mental games (i.e. learning to retrieve certain things or find balls under cups etc). Mental games can be done in a very small space and don’t require a house with a yard.
If you are a dedicated pet owner you can have a sizable dog in a small apartment.
Post # 13
That’s fine if you decide to do that. My opinion is that most apartments aren’t appropriate for dogs, and I think it’s unfair to them. I think a lot of people want dogs, and think that just crating them up is an appropriate way to handle them while they are at work or out. It’s like having a child; you wouldn’t lock your child in a crate while at work. If she were going to do a pet day care or something, that’s different.
Post # 14
I would say no, simply because your husband doesn’t seem to be on board yet and he would probably end up being the main caretaker after work. If you did get a dog, I would definitely recommend an adult. I personally don’t like keeping a dog in a crate for 8 hours but I know some people do. Doggie daycare in my area runs about $15 a day which really adds up.
Post # 15
I totally agree, and to add to that, it goes back to a dog’s instincts of wanting to be in a den all day. I crate Ali because she wants to be in there, crate training has taught her that she has a place that it hers, that she’s not supposed to toilet in, and a place that if she does not want to be bothered by other dogs (my little one tends to bug her) she can go in there and have some quiet time. It’s not mean or cruel to have a dog kenneled all day. I admit that I worry about her bladder/stool while I am gone, so I usually spend my lunches coming home and letting her out to pee.
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Post # 16
I’m all for crate training, but 8 hours during the day is a long time for a dog to be cooped up. In my opinion, you have two options here.
Option 1: Adopt a grown dog that is already housebroken and crate trained, and once it gets acclimated to your apartment, leave it alone out of its crate for a few hours and see how it does. Most adult dogs are perfectly capable of behaving themselves when they’re given the run of the house, and if you leave the crate open, they’ll still have that as an option if they feel like being in there.
Option 2: If you want to get a puppy, wait until you have the time and space to devote to training it properly. Puppies need a lot of attention. They need to be taken out extremely often to potty so they learn good bathroom habits and you won’t come home to find they’ve had accidents all over the house. They are social animals and need lots of human interaction during their young life if they are going to behave themselves around strangers and children. A puppy in a crate for 8 hours will not get the benefit of any of this. If you and your husband will still be working the same hours when you have a house, then I would still recommend against having a puppy unless there is someone else who can go over and spend time with it during the day. There are plenty of grown dogs in shelters who would love a home and already have good social and bathroom habits.