(Closed) Top hats

posted 6 years ago in Accessories
Post # 3
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Helper bee

@karenandmatt:  

 

Frankly, my dear, I do not think that your fiance can wear a top hat with a military uniform. Military uniforms come with their own headgear (usually called covers), and cannot be exchanged because the wearer likes a different look.

Post # 4
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 2010

@karenandmatt:  Persephone is correct.  

Civilian attire cannot be mixed with with a military attire.  

A top hat would only be appropriate with a tuxedo.

Post # 6
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Sugar bee

You might be able to get a rental from a theatrical costumer?

Post # 7
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Helper bee

@Loribeth:  

Actually, at top hat is only correct with morning dress or a tailcoat, i.e., white tie attire:-). For black tie it would be a Homburg or a Fedora.

Don’t ask how I know all this :-).

Post # 8
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Helper bee

@karenandmatt:  

Now I am thoroughly confused. Hats are only worn outside, and he will be taking his jacket off? I have been married to a Naval officer for several years, and my dad served as an officer in the Royal Dragoon Guards, so I am fairly familiar with military protocol, but I’ve never heard of that.

Suspenders? Really?

Where I am from, these are suspenders, but they are usually only worn by ladies or those pretending to be ladies.

Post # 9
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Helper bee

My husband actually owns a silk chapeau claque (inherited from his English grandpa). Could you enquire with a gentlemen’s outfitter if you can hire one? However, I must warn you that they will likely only have them in black silk or perhaps grey for morning attire. My husband had his repaired and refurbished at Patey’s in London. They supply hats for Royal Ascot, so perhaps they can advise. A top hat is not cheap, and 300 dollars sounds rather reasonable.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee

I’ve never seen a top hat “pop out” before? 

 

Post # 11
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Sugar bee

@Persephone:  Heheheh … what you think of as “suspenders,” Americans call “garters.” To us, “suspenders” are what you might call “braces” (?) – lengths of elastic worn by men, over the shirt but under the jacket, clipped to the waistband of their pants (or “trousers” in British parlance, since I know “pants” also means something rather different across the pond!) and stretched over the shoulders.

Post # 12
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Helper bee

@HelleCat:  

It’s called a chapeau claque, and was worn by gentlemen to the opera and other formal occasions. The foldable option was invented to save space, as European opera houses never had enough room to check all those cloaks and hats. When you open it up, it makes a popping or clicking noise. I guess the noise also came in handy, because all those stiff joints popping after hours of sitting in a cramped seat could be blamed on the hats.

 

P.S. I totally made that last one up 🙂

Post # 13
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Helper bee

@KCKnd2:  

 

Ah, I see :-). I am familiar with garters to hold up stockings, but to me they always were little elasticised bands of fabric. It never really came up in polite conversation, and my half-American husband always calls my contraption suspenders, and the thing that he uses to hold up his trousers braces.

The good old pants question — LOL.

Post # 14
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

@Persephone: 

@karenandmatt:  

Perhaps military dress rules are different between the two countries?

 

I do agree, though, that it may be too dressy for slacks and suspenders/braces/whatever!  But ya know what?  It’s his day, too, so maybe look into it!  But if that’s the case, I’d go with the less expensive option.  The likelihood of him wearing it all night might be slim-to-none.

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