(Closed) Top Ten States for best quality of life

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Post # 92
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Sugar bee

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@likewoah:  lol, Ive lived aall over the US and SoCal is my absolute favorite place. We currently live in Virginia an its torture. I’m talking 80-100 degree weather ALL summer. It’s unbearable, apparently I’m the only one who thinks so though. 

Post # 93
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

I’ve lived in Hawaii for just over 10 years and I love it. The weather is beautiful, there is a lot to do that is free, people are generally very nice and welcoming, and it has a unique culture from the different ethnicities which have settled in Hawaii. 

That being said, the cost of living is a hard pill to swallow. I have lived most of my years here as a single parent which has been tough (wouldn’t it be anywhere?). I live in a tiny apartment and my rent is high. Everything costs a little (or a lot) more. I’ve been fortunate to scrape by without ever having to work a second job and I actually only know a few people who work second or third jobs. P.S. I don’t have any rich friends, haha! 

I know another poster mentioned tension between locals and people from the mainland. I do know people complain about it but I’ve never really encountered it. In fact, my experience with locals has been great. Marrying one! Score! 

Post # 94
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2014

@skippydarling:  I’m from NY and moved bc I hated it. I moved to SC, which does not make the list, but I am so incredibly happy here (so is FI). You have no idea what it’s like to NOT live in NY. Amazing. I feel like I’m still on vacation and will have to go back and we’ve been here almost 10 months.

Post # 95
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Honey bee

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@Treejewel19:  Agree! I’m in soCal and most days I wake up feeling that it’s another wonderful day of sunny 73 degrees.

Post # 96
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Helper bee

I was born and raised in Nebraska. Omaha actually. I love it here. The cost of living is great, the job market is good, and we have awesome hospitals (I’m in healthcare). I love that its small town and big city wrapped in one. There is always something to do here and it’s close enough to Kansas City and Chicago For quick vacays

Post # 97
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

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@likewoah: Weather isn’t worth the 200% mark-up on home prices.  We’re looking at relocating to Indianapolis or Cincinnati–while my SO’s pay could translate to a 20% reduction in pay to relocate to those particular cities.  We’d also be paying less for a home/apartment, food, car insurance, live in a much safer community, and be closer to our families.  Additionally, Indiana’s tax rate is flat regardless of income–4.3%.  In California, you’re looking at almost 2x as much at the second highest level and many people in the bay area are in those levels.

I’ll give you a couple of examples:

House A in Carmel, Indiana.  It’s easily the most affluent community in Indiana with the state’s best school system and just a little north of Indianapolis.  I guess some could argue that the house is too fancy.  Your commute to downtown Indy would be less than 30 minutes and the traffic, while heavy to Indiana standards, is in no comparison to the bay area or heaven forbid, LA.

So then there’s House B, also in Carmel, Indiana.  It’s less extravagant but more expensive than some of the rest of the greater Indy area.

Here’s what an “affordable” home in Fremont, CA would be–given we would never be able to actually afford to live on the peninsula were my SO works.  We’d actually likely never be able to afford to live in Fremont and Fremont isn’t special, it has better schools than Hayward and Union City but again, as you probably know, Fremont isn’t great.

Those are just home prices!  Food in the midwest (including produce) is about 50-60% the cost of food in the bay area.  Car insurance and car prices are significantly lower in the midwest and southern states.  It’s much safer in the midwest (besides Detroit).

I’ve been studying home prices in minor cities across the US to find the best bang for our buck.  It appears Cincinnati, Indianapolis, and Raleigh are the best.  Houston is great except for one thing–the weather.  I actually miss having 4 seasons.

Post # 98
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2012

Hmmm…. now I’m like whats wrong with us because neither of us would want to live in any of those places.

Post # 99
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2012

According to this article, Oklahoma ranks 45th in “quality of life.” but first in “cost of living”

Super. 😐

Post # 100
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Honey bee

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@Hyperventilate:  I think the “1” in the cost of living means it is the lowest, since California is 45 and Hawaii is 50, and those are high COL states.

Post # 101
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2012

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@SoupyCat:  Yeah, I knew it meant the lowest. It’s the lowest because nobody wants to live here. <_<

I was born and raised in California. I’d go back if possible.

Post # 102
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

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@beekiss:  Also, when I say 20% reduction in pay.  That’s a reduction in the average pay.  The average pay in those cities is still greater than what he currently makes (which we’re trying to fix right now). 

Post # 103
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

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@peachacid:  +1! What part?

Post # 104
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2011

I love Texas for sure, as a new grad from college in the next two years on my salary alone DH and I should be able to buy a 3-4 bedroom house in a nice area for what some people pay for a closet sized studio in a bad area. But our public education and healthcare are kind of a joke. Also, even for me there are some insane far right wingers. Ad I say that as a practicing Southern Baptist! I am no raging liberal but some people….gah. 

Post # 105
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

I’m really surprised that colorado isn’t on the list. I’m a transplant (like everyone else here) and I don’t think anyone leaves voluntarily. I’m not even that “outdoorsy” and I still love it.

Post # 106
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2012

Interesting Stats

As someone who has visited 7 of these 10 States,

  • 9 – New Hampshire
  • 7 South Dakota
  • 6/5 Tied for North Dakota / Maine
  • 3 – Minnesota
  • 2 – Vermont

I would say that I do find several of them awesome…

And there is a real fondness for me of the 3 New England States on this list… New Hampshire, Maine & Vermont.  Some of my favourite places in America for Mr TTR & I to go for a Weekend Getaway / Vacation.

I also find it kind of fascinating that 7 of the States on the Top 10 List went Democratic in the last election… and I would therefore say (having also visited them) that they are indeed a bit more progressive in their way of thinking, and therefore that might also contribute partly to WHY they are awesome places to live.

Example…

Gay Marriage is only legal currently in 15 US States… of which 5.. Maine – Minnesota – New Hampshire – Vermont – and Washington are on this Top 10 List

 

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