Trump and his ethnocentric world view

posted 3 years ago in The Lounge
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CakeSniffer :  I’d argue that this is Bannon’s worldview and not Trumps, but I digress…

The problem on a whole with this idea is that we can somehow stop our global trade and treaties with foreign nations and think that that won’t come with a cost we won’t be able to afford. Want to stop free trade agreements? Get ready for the cost of consumer goods to jump up 20-30%. Easily. Want to pull out of NATO? Good luck alone when the next foreign attack happens and they won’t jump in to fight along side of us. Say we’re not going to follow the Geneva convention? Great, I’ve always wanted to be a country known for human rights violations and war crimes. Want to only have “American business”? There go options within the job market, advances in technology and an increased competition within economic markets.

This whole idea that if we “just bought American” all those manufacturing jobs would have been saved is a load of crap. Those jobs were already leaving due to automation and technological advances in manufacturing. Therefore it cut the labor force within that job sector.

North Korea is also an “insular” nation where “North Korea is first.” Ask them how its working out for them.

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I just wanted to add to this something that made me turn sean spicer off in disgust yesterday 

A reporter mentioned Trump’s suggestion of going after the families of terrorists, he mentioned this during his campaign. The reporter asked if Trump would really target innocent families including children just because one of their family members is a terrorist.

He looked at the reporter loudly said “no American children will ever be targeted during the fight against terrorism” and refused a follow up from the reporter and moved on

I was so disgusted I turned him off. They won’t target American children but innocent children from other parts of the world are free game. That breaks my heart, I was completely repulsed by that 

That way, when a child is murdered, this lying sack of crap can say “well I specifically said we wouldn’t target American children”

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Katie-Didnt :  

remember when Trump said we would only look at helping our allies if they have sufficiently paid their debts to us?

Very scary.

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araebo5585 :  I mean, child deaths at the hands of the US are not new. In 2011, 16 year old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was eating on a restaurant patio in Yemen when he was killed by a drone strike. His father was an al-Quaeda leader killed two weeks prior. The 16 year old’s death was largely discounted as a ‘wrong place, wrong time’ (in a country we were not at war with) accident but then-Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said that “Maybe he should have had a more responsible father.” This was during Obama’s first term in office.

The New American Foundation, a nonpartisan think tank, estimated that the non-military casualty rate of drone strikes between 2004-2011 was 20%. I bet we’re going to see that number rise. 

CakeSniffer :  DT and his ilk have a fantasy of turning back the magic clock to a pre-globalization era where everything is The Way It’s Supposed To Be. 

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Speck_ :  

Thanks for the info, that would explain why I haven’t seen a lot of outcry if it’s unfortunately common

Advocating for targeting innocent civilians and families like he did on his campaign is a war crime though.

The situation with the little girl wasn’t purposeful though.

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Speck_ :  One of the things I despised Obama for was the drone strikes. It still makes my blood boil. Now he gave it to Trump to handle and as you said, its only going to get worse.

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araebo5585 :  What debt does he mean as 32% of the $10 trillion+ debt is owed to foreign nations…$1.25 trillion is owed to China. I’m done looking for the logic.

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EllyAnne :  

There is no logic when it comes to the orange one. I might have used the wrong term, I remember him saying countries owe us and are not paying so why should we protect them… but the articles I’m finding are about him wanting the countries to pay us for protection.

I’m sure if we ever needed help, he world graciously pay other countries for it 😉

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/03/could-trump-reduce-the-national-debt-by-making-u-s-allies-pay-for-military-protection-heres-what-we-found/?client=ms-android-verizon

https://www.quora.com/Trump-claims-US-should-stop-protecting-other-countries-that-dont-pay-US-spending-on-foreign-protection-is-less-than-1-of-budget-Is-Trump-right

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