Post # 196
Katie-Didnt : i think the DHS is in the right here. the DHS isn’t deporting anyone. it’s my understanding that the judge’s ruling was simply to not deport anyone, not to overturn the order about refusing immigration. i read it as: the folks that arrived after the order was signed can’t be cleared through customs but they aren’t immediately being deported and kicked out.
am i not reading it all correctly? i’m finding it very difficult to keep up with everything.
Post # 197
allywed : no one is cyber bullying you. You are just being asked follow up questions regarding your racist opinion. If other people’s questions and opinions about your statements bother you, you probably shouldn’t be posting on a public board.
Post # 198
allywed : I disagree with you profoundly but I don’t agree with you being bullied.
You said: “I don’t give a damn about helping the descendants of the people who rioted against my family. If there is someone who can add value to the US, we should have them. If not, no thanks. Let them ruin another country.”
I think that your family being thrown out of Syria was utterly wrong. But it would also be wrong to therefore discriminate against or mistreat the childen or grandchildren or great-granchildren of the people who threw your family out of Syria. Children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren are not responsible for the actions of their parents or grandparents or great-grandparents.
(If we were to start making descendants responsible for the actions of their ancestors then we would all look pretty guilty. The prison system would certainly crash.)
You cannot hate an entire nation. This will not solve terrorism (at its roots are injustice and discrimination) but exacerbate it. Nor will closing the borders. You’ll just get home-grown terrorism on the increase.
There are no easy answers to the problem of terrorism. Trump may be doing a lot of posturing at the moment but he hasn’t got any answers to it either. What he is doing is going against the American Constitution and such an action has consequences. Once the state starts discriminating on the grounds of ancestry or religion you might find that other forms of discrimation become prevalent too. This is why so many Americans protested and why so many of them are shocked by the last nine days.
In a democracy it is important not only to have a strong party in power but a strong party in opposition. You have to have checks and balances. Trump has gone too far already.
As far as climate change is concerned whether there is climate change (lots of evidence) or no climate change (not much evidence) is a almost a moot point. The thing to do is think about the precautionary principle. If climate change isn’t occurring then the worst that can happen is that we are all a little poorer except the rich who will be a lot richer. If climate change is occurring then the worst that can happen is that there is widespread famine and the world becomes uninhabitable. I think I would treat climate change as happening until someone can show otherwise.
Post # 199
This thread has derailed, I’m going to go ahead and close it for review