TTC for 6ish months then PreSeed

posted 4 months ago in Pregnancy
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Busy bee

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@krm1984:  I mean, different cycle, different try. That’s dumb. By that logic, I used preseed for two cycles in which I did NOT get pregnant, and then didn’t use it when I did. It was the only thing different! So ta da! By your logic that means it prevents pregnancy. 

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Buzzing bee
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@personaperson:  but that’s not true either. This is the problem with this conversation. You saying you are more likely to get pregnant WITHOUT using preeseed. That’s just not true. It’s a neutral product. Why are you trying so hard to “warn” people? When it’s not harmful in anyway? Makes no sense 

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@personaperson:  Jesus Christ. I SAID I KNOW IT DOESN’T ACTUALLY CAUSE PREGNANCY.  Literally the first sentence I posted said that I recognized that factually speaking, what PPs said about it’s actual effectiveness is true.  But MY EXPERIENCE was that I conceived the first time I used it after trying for a while. This thread is about personal experiences – that was mine. Thanks for trying to imply I’m stupid, but I understand how it works, thanks. ✌🏻

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@emdinan:  You don’t have anything to apologize for!

Post # 21
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I used preseed for a couple months and then quit. The month I got pregnant we used regular lube that wasn’t even sperm friendly. It took 14 months for us to conceive a viable pregnancy.  So I am not personally into preseed but I guess it works for some! 

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Busy bee

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@mrsssb:  Actually my understanding of the research really IS that pre-seed effects sperm-motility negaitively in comparison to non-lubricant (vaginal discharge only) sexual activity in couples not experiencng clinical vaginal dryness (but much less than other lubricants.) See, for example, this study—

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3947082/

That’s why even the reputable places that recommend it for some users (like https://expectingscience.com/2015/09/28/nine-science-backed-tips-for-getting-pregnant-quickly/) use the phrase “least detrimental” and not “neutral” or “non-detrimental” or “positive.”

On this I will acknowledge that I am not a reprodutive endrocrinologist–do you have reputable reserach showing full neutrality?

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Bumble bee

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@personaperson:  I don’t understand why you’re so hell bent on dictating people’s experiences here.  I’m glad that you think you have some sort of authority by citing studies, but we’ve repeatedly said that this thread encompasses PERSONAL experiences.  No one but you is trying to make the argument that using or not using it affects pregnancy broadly.  And the fact of the matter is that if it was detrimental on a large scale, I would have been LESS likely to conceive the one month that I tried it out of 8.  And….I got pregnant.  So.

Not to mention that for those of us who have managed to conceive (especially after struggle), this is a very special, positive experience.  I don’t appreciate that you’re trying to argue with people over something that should be celebrated just because you disagree with what WE think may have helped US.  If you don’t think it’s helpful then don’t use it and move along.

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@krm1984:  well, I’ll celebrate with you despite was studies say lololol. We got pregnant on cycle 6 after using preseed for the first time, so I’ll sing it’s praises from my personal expereince too! Yay preseed babies!!!

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@Jazzylove:  Yessss!  Love this!  #preseedbabies should be a thing, LOL

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Bee Keeper
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And here are a couple of studies that suggest preseed HELPS aid conception, stressing its benefits on sperm motility and vitality.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140721005824/en/Pregnant-Clinical-Research-Study-Shows-Pre-Seed-Lubricant

http://www.gcomworks.com/2014/02/05/new-clinical-study-shows-pre-seedis-the-best-lubricant-for-couples-wanting-to-conceive/

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@personaperson:  

But this thread is about personal experiences when TTC. It’s wonderful that you conceived the month you were not using preseed but like so many other posters here, the month we used preseed was our month. 

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@personaperson:  TTC is an emotionally fraught, personal experience for everyone. Calling another bee (or her logic) dumb is uncalled for when all she has done has given her personal experience. In fact, she has agreed with your assessment regarding the existing evidence.

That study is an in vitro study. It certainly makes me take pause, but until I see a controlled, blinded in vivo study comparing rates of fertility between people using preseed and people not using preseed, I’m going to also allow my level 5 evidence some slack. We all know that in vitro findings do NOT always translate into an in vivo effect. What if, in vivo, sperm survival is 92% with preseed as per your study, but it does provide improved motility? To the single sperm required to fertilize an egg maybe that benefit outweighs the sperm death to the other 8%? What if it is helpful in women who do not produce enough conducive cervical mucus to naturally encourage the sperm to get to where it needs to be? There are a lot of what ifs, and some of these things we may never know the answers to. You showed us a good, peer-reviewed study. But we also have to be able to critically examine its limitations. 

Can a good study be designed? Probably. Will people participate? Maybe, maybe not. Are there are MILLION confounding variables that will make interpretation difficult? Absolutely. Fertility is not a hard science. Even with all the factors we are able to control, there are we will never be able to fully grasp. If we had full control and understanding, pregnancy rate in IVF would be 100%. It’s not. 

At the end of the day, you got pregnant without preseed. There are many, many women who managed to get pregnant with preseed. We will never know if the preseed was the ONE thing that tipped the scales for them or if the stars just magically aligned. Does it matter, though? If they believe it helped them, is that harmful?  I just can’t see how it’s worth it to try and tear another bee down just to prove your point. 

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@pelesaurus:  agreed! It’s just bizzare because no one needs someone running around warning them this intensely that something doesn’t work when evidence suggests it’s a good option and evidence on it skews neutral. 

Why does she feel such a strong need to warn people? Why not let people have their own experience with it and be happy for them. And again, all woman TTC are doing their own research, trying different things and I have NEVER seen a bee on here put all their hopes and dreams on a TTC product to the point they need to be warned not to emotionally get their hopes up.  

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Bumble bee

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@mrsssb:  You’ve got that right.  When I was TTC I feel like I looked at alllll the options: fertility tea, pineapple core, CoQ10, you name it.  Maybe I would have conceived sooner if I’d just RELAXED like everyone else was trying to tell me……*cue eye roll*

The last thing any TTC woman needs to be told is what someone else thinks will or won’t work.  Just leave them alone, they’re already a ball of nerves and there’s nothing you can say that will make them more or less anxious than they’ve already made themselves.

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