# (Closed) “two thousand eleven” vs “two thousand and eleven”

posted 7 years ago in Paper
Post # 3
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Bumble bee
• Wedding: September 2011 - Bent Creek Winery (Livermore, California); Reception: Family Residence (San Ramon, California)

I learned years ago (so I can’t quote a source or anything) that the “and” in long numbers is superfluous. So “two thousand eleven” is correct. Don’t worry about the “and” in your invites–I’m sure no one will even notice. But of you want to be “correct” for your programs, it’s “two thousand eleven.”

Post # 4
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Sugar bee
• Wedding: March 2012

I was always taught it’s ok to put the “and” in a number as long as it’s bigger than 3 digits (you can’t say one hundred and twelve).

Post # 5
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Sugar bee
• Wedding: March 2012

Double post

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
• Wedding: November 2011

@BoiledPNut: I learned the opposite, because it’s all one number.

@Cola262: we had this same dilemma. The person who printed our invites said to do “Two Thousand Eleven” because it had the right number of syllables. For example: last year we would have said “Two Thousand AND ten” because ten is only 1 syllable and eleven is 2. I dont know, but that was his logic and we went with it.

Post # 8
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Sugar Beekeeper
• Wedding: September 2010

Post # 9
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Honey bee
• Wedding: October 2011

We just decided, (that since Fiance pointed out,) the “and” implies a decimal or fraction (“and nine tenths”) that it’s more proper to leave it off.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
• Wedding: July 2010

I’ve always though the and was suppoed to be there, I don’t think it really matters. If some one points it out to you they obviously don’t have a lot to do in there life

Post # 10
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Worker bee
• Wedding: August 2011

First of all, really, don’t worry about it.

Now, as a former math person and daughter of a HS math teacher, I learned that the and was only to be used in place of a decimal point.  (five dollars and 75 cents)

That being said, traditionally on invites the year is typically written as Nineteen hundred and ninety-three; Two Thousand and Eleven.  etc.  BUT, you really can do whatever you want on your invites.  I’d vote for consistency across everything, or just switch to numerals – 2011.  : )

Post # 11
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Buzzing bee
• Wedding: August 2010

@red_rose: that’s what i learned too, that “and” means a decimal point, so 2000.11. i don’t think it’s a big deal or that anyone would really notice, unless they’re a grammar hound, but that technically “two thousand eleven” is better

Post # 12
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Sugar bee
• Wedding: August 2011

I agree with Crayfish. Honey, don’t sweat the small stuff. The only person who’s going to be mad at you is your 5th grade math teacher ðŸ™‚

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
• Wedding: September 2011

I never thought about this so I just looked at our invitations and it says “two thousand and eleven”. I didn’t notice and I’m pretty anal lol so I don’t think anyone else will notice at all. I wouldn’t give it another thought, especially since there’s nothing you can do about it now. ðŸ™‚

Post # 14
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Sugar bee
• Wedding: October 2011

the British way uses the “and”, the American way omits it. so if you said “the favour/honour of your presence…” then you would be correct in including “and”.

…but seriously, no one will notice either way lol.

Post # 15
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Bee Keeper
• Wedding: November 2011

I believe two thousand eleven is correct, but honestly I dont think anyone will care or really notice.

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