UK bees, how do you feel about having monarchy?

posted 2 months ago in The Lounge
Post # 2
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598 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2018 - UK

It’s a fairly mixed bag, some people love the royals, others hate them. Personally I don’t have any strong feelings either way. They cost us money in terms of tax, but we make a lot of money from tourists who visit the uk to see places like Buckingham palace.

William and Harry seem to be more popular because I think people view them as being more relatable than the older royals, and because they do lots of charity work.

It’s not a subject I really give much thought to, I’ve never known anything different!

Post # 3
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: March 2013

Honestly I think the queen has a tough job, she can’t have a political opinion. I really like that she had a real job during the war. 

I really hate that taxpayers fund the royals and their houses and renovations. I read that Meghan has over £600k of jewelry which is about double what Kate has. 

I try and ignore them all honestly, but they do grind my gears. There are so many parts of England, Wales Scotland and northern Ireland that could do with the money that’s spent frivolously, and to me the royals are frivolous. 

My opinion is probably swayed because I’m Scottish and people always call everyone English, but there’s Welsh Scottish and Irish too! I have lived in England too though.

Honestly the royals are more for tourists in my opinion.

Post # 4
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Bumble bee

Not in the UK, but do the taxpayers have to fund the royals in order for tourists to be interested in them? I would think people would still want to visit all the royal sites even if the monarchy was abolished. They would just be like any other historical sites in Europe that people still visit.

Post # 5
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: July 2018

I am not a royalist by any stretch of the imagination but for everything they cost the UK they do bring it back in revenue.  

I think the majority of the properties are owned by the Crown Estate and only Sandringham and Balmoral are owned by the Queen personally.  

The taxpayers money that the royal family receive for expenses and upkeep actually come from the profits of the Crown Estate properties. 

Post # 6
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

I’m a big fan of the monarchy. I’m from east anglia and the town that spawned Oliver Cromwell. We tried to be a republic once … didn’t like it and asked the king to come back. 

 

The queen and royal family have their own income from their estates. The tax payers do fund their public / ceremonial lives but the civil list (what this funding is called) is only for the ‘senior royals’ 

regardless of whether we had a monarchy or not we’d have to maintain Buckingham palace etc as they are historic monuments and tourist attractions. The royals bring in a lot through tourism. 

Even if we had a president we’d still have to fund their ceremonial life. Just like in other countries. Who pays for the White House? Airforce 1 etc. 

Post # 7
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: July 2018

kristin36890 :  I would definitely imagine tourist numbers to royal sites are higher because there is an active royal family.  The royals still draw in enormous crowds for appearances or things like the changing of the guard. 

There would still be tourism to historical sites but I think there would be less of a mass appeal. 

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

I think Meghan and Harry come across as slightly more extravagant than the others. Her love of designer labels and the baby shower were a bit OTTbotanistbee :  

Post # 9
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2015

It costs several million dollars every time Donald hops on AF1 to Mar-a-Lago… I don’t see how that’s much different from a taxpayer’s perspective. At least the royal family is apolitical – in the US, taxpayers cover presidential travel (but not food, lodging etc.) for his 2020 political rallies.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee

I like the Royals, as other bees have mentioned they actually contribute more than they receive. They do this through the Crown Estate which brings in huge revenues (£300 million+ per year) from things like rent, which the government receives most of the money back (75%). The Queen also makes a lot of private money through investments which she pays tax on. There is an argument that the estate should be given to the government and become public property, but you could use that argument for all inherited wealth and estates imo so is a bit of a moot point.

Saying that I do think since the Queen works for the country they should all (including minor Royals) support her in that role by contributing to society in return for their privileged positions and wealth through charity work etc. and duties, like Diana did and William and Harry (and Charles) continue to do. I also think they should be responsible with their spending, especially as the country and its people as a whole are struggling at the moment and one of their roles is to strengthen, stabilise and unite the nation. 

Edit- Because of their role, the history behind it and their privileged positions they are held to much higher standards than regular celebrities. They are expected to behave in a very dignified and classy way and be “squeaky clean”, in turn very high standards are expected of those who marry into the royal family as well, hence, why Meghan is criticised so much, as many feel she is not Royal “material”. 

Post # 11
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

Very much agree. I think that’s why things like the baby shower weren’t good ideas. I like to see Kate reuse outfits and pair designer stuff with high street (ok high end high street but still) ariesscientist :  

Post # 13
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: July 2018

socalgirl1689 :  Baby showers aren’t a thing in the UK which is why she had one with her friends in the US.  Serena Williams paid for the party so I don’t know why Meghan is getting so much flack for it.   

Post # 14
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2014

Meghan Markle made a ton of money before she married into the royal family. If she wants to drop $300k on a baby shower, who cares? It’s her money. She can roll it up like a cigar and smoke it if she wants. 

ETA: reading pp’s comment that Serena Williams paid for the baby shower. Double who cares, in that case. Serena can spend her money on whatever darn thing she wants.

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