Post # 77
The reason it’s important that all people be allowed to get MARRIED is that that means they’re all equal. If you call what gay people do to become legally united by a different name, you are saying they are different and therefore unequal.
Remember Plessy v. Ferguson in 1896…separate is NEVER equal, regardless of what the supreme court at one time ruled.
Check out this article about New Hampshire republicans who are on the RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY! It’s mostly because they’re from…that’s right…New Hampshire!! Live free or die! http://www.washingtonblade.com/2012/12/27/third-republican-congressman-backs-doma-repeal-bill/
Post # 78
I’m pretty new to Weddingbee, and have been busy with moving until tonight. I just saw this thread and am really disappointed the sections were moved 🙁 I thought WB was an inclusive community that didn’t try to box general wedding issues with a LGBTQ topic away from the rest of the community (Besides, Gay Marriage is good for everyone! Especially if you make money off weddings…).
Anyways, this is disappointing. I know this communcity comes down pretty hard on users that insult critique dresses and diy projects, so I hope the same rules are enforced against those that insult a woman’s choice about whom to marry….
Post # 79
My argument is that gay couples already have exactly the same rights as straight couples (see my original post) EXCEPT for in the three points I mention above. As very few people are peers of the realm, this difference does not affect them. As far as “what’s in a name” goes, you could call it the “rite of the pink pyjamas” and it wouldn’t make you any less married. You think that persecuting religious groups is a good thing. Well, I would like to hear the opinion of a religious LGBT couple on that one. All this bill does, as far as I can see, is to change the name of the LGBT marriage ceremony, and declare open season on religious groups. I see nothing else new here at all. Like I said, this has the potential to negatively affect ANYONE wanting to get married in a church in the UK in the future, whether they are LGBT or not.
But that’s the thing… I don’t think it is awesome! Pro-equality laws are awesome when they give something to the minority whilst not taking from the majority. I just think people should examine their legislation before they are so keen to pass it.
EDIT: And, as I predicted, here we go already: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20680924
The government has decided to try and solve the problem by making religious gay marriage illegal “unless their organisation’s governing body has expressly opted in to provisions for doing so”. Prior to this, an LGBT couple could get married/have a civil partnership within a church, provided you could find a preacher who was willing to do it. Now there’s just going to be a blanket ban. Sucks to be a religious LGBT, right? I fail to see how this is anything but a step backwards for religious LGBTs.
Post # 80
…. but no one asked if you think it is awesome. And coming in here with a rain cloud trying to rain on everyone’s celebration is rude. There are more than enough gay marriage debate threads to share your opinions. The purpose of THIS thread was celebration.
Post # 81
Just the thought that it’s news that gay marriage is now legal in the UK pisses me off. It shouldn’t be news, it should just be accepted. I can’t get over how egotistical it is for anyone to think that they have the right to say who can and can’t marry. It’s ridiculous! That being said Go, UK! Now if these egotistical idiots in the US would catch up!
Post # 82
+1. I am increasingly embarrassed by our country and the people in it who stand staunchly behind the refusal of basic human rights to an entire segment of our population.
Post # 83
Woohoo! Every time I see a state or a country legalize it, I get so happy! I feel like it’s gaining momentum, finally.
I believe that same-sex marriage is the civil rights struggle of our generation. It makes me think of this:
Post # 85
I have even more readon to be embarrased. Not only am I from the US, but also from North Carolina who just recently passed the law against gay marriage. It’s all just so crazy. How do we have the right to tell anybody who they can and can’t love? It makes me so angry, and no I am not gay nor do I really know anybody who is. It doesnt matter, its about whats right and wrong, and it is wrong to deny anybody their basic human rights. *sigh*
Post # 86
That wasn’t made clear in the initial post, though. If you post in a public forum, you are inviting opinions. They may be good opinions, or bad opinions, but they are still opinions. Simply by voicing your opinion, you invite replies, and those replies may not be what you want to hear.
Also… ” There are more than enough gay marriage debate threads to share your opinions.” I think you misunderstand me. It is not at all my intention to debate gay marriage. I believe, 100%, that LGBT couples should have equal rights in law with regards to inheritance, family, tax, pension and a million and one other rights which come with marriage (whether I believe it should be called “marriage” or not is a separate, and rather pointless debate which ends in people doing the equivalent of “potato, potato” to each other, so I’ll skip that here). I also very genuinely wish LGBT couples a long and happy life together. In addition, I think it is important to safeguard the rights of religious LGBT couples and, indeed, to safeguard religious freedoms in general.
…. I just don’t think that THIS LAW is the way to do it. It is THIS LAW to which I object, specifically. Please don’t take that to mean that I wish OP, and all the other posters on here, anything but happiness, and a long life with their partners and families, because that simply isn’t the case.