(Closed) UK Trump Watch

posted 4 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 736
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

Supersleuth :  “What would Trump have to do for his supporters not to vote for him?”

In January Trump boasted “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters” At the time, everyone took that as typical Trump hyperbole. I now believe that statement is true for a certain (hopefully small) percentage of his core, base supporters. I hope that for the rational, decent people who were supporting him out of party loyalty, lack of information, or distaste for Hillary- his complete public unraveling over the past couple of weeks will finally be enough. 

Post # 738
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1150 posts
Bumble bee

Supersleuth :  That’s his entire strategy.  One shocking, scandalous statement after the next.  His lifeline depends on it.  That’s how nothing truly sticks to him.  Everyone is playing catch up all the time.

He never has to answer for anything, instead he says/does something brand new.  If he were to stop, he would drown in his own wake.

This strategy requires an utter lack of shame, a monster ego and total disregard for country.  

Post # 739
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1150 posts
Bumble bee

And your frog analogy is happening.  His supporters boo’d a military mom when she asked a reasonable question at a Pence rally.  A year ago I do not think this would have happened.  

Post # 743
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302 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: March 2017

Supersleuth :  Republicans are notorious for never backing down. I’d be surprised if they started falling away from Trump. Some of them have, but not in the numbers they should. I don’t know but about three people in real life that actually think Trump makes sense. The only reason I still speak to these people is because they are family.

It’s all very sad to many of us in the US. We are embarrassed that the movie Idiocracy is coming true at an alarming rate. I am holding out hope that Clinton will win, but many of my friends that are Clinton supporters are very afraid and think Trump will win. It’s scary to us the damage he will cause domestically and on the world stage.   

Post # 744
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306 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2015

First time posting in this thread…

I’ve been curious as to how others around the world viewed Trump.  I’m sure that if he somehow manages to win, we will be in WWIII with no allies.  I live in a very conservative area and the number of Trump supporters around here is SCARY!  

Post # 745
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486 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2017

I am like jaw-dropped and still shocked at the number of supporters he has. He is the worst presidential candidate in our history, and his lack of good temperament and experience in running a country and foreign relations is not what is baffling. What is the most shocking is how many people would and have voted for him! most of his supporters are white and uneducated Americans which probably explains why.  I can’t wait to watch his debates against Hillary when he makes it even more evident that he is unfit to be president. MAYBE that will wake his supporters up and snap to the realization that he shouldn’t be president, but again, it’s kind of hard to not be surprised anymore when something crazy like that does happen– his supporters are as stupid as he is.

#NeverTrump  

vote in November!! It’s probably the most important election in our lifetime to not elect this orange idiot to presidency!!!

Post # 746
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

Supersleuth :  Never going to happen.  What you don’t understand is that much of what Trump does/says is calculated, even though it may not seem to be.  He is purposely trying to appeal to a certain demographic of voter in the U.S. that have felt ignored and disenfranchised for a long time, at least that’s one theory.  He has exponentially increased membership in the Republican party among those who normally do not vote at all.  Paul Ryan is only saying what he has to say so as to keep up the proper appearances and keep the more conservative members of his party simmered down.  Mark my words on this.  Trump is the U.S.’s Brexit.  He is not going to change the strategy that has gotten him this far.  As much as people are gasping and sputtering and acting all shocked at every little thing he says and does it doesn’t mean he isn’t having a huge effect on an until-now silent majority.  Those types of people LOVE the un-pc Trump.

And, before I get bashed, this is not to say I AGREE with or necessarily support Trump.  I’m just explaining a theory some people have pointed out, including Michael Moore, to explain Trump’s unexplainable popularity, which may well win him the White House. 

Post # 747
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

starrynight898 :  Many, many people feel, including me, that Hillary Clinton is a vile and despicable politician who has proven over numerous decades to be dishonest, corrupt and power-hungry at the expense of American lives and National Security.  I never see myself voting for her.  It’s a dilemma for me in light of Trump’s continual appeal to ideals I personally do not believe in.  Gary Johnson may get my vote yet.

ETA:  To be clear, by “ideals” I mean things some Trump supporters, like the KKK and some other white supremacy organization I can’t remember the name of, hold that equals what I consider to be racism.  And I am deeply, entirely, and flatly AGAINST racism.

Post # 749
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

Supersleuth :  Lol!  I certainly agree with your take on our journalists, so many of them seem to be in the pockets of politicians, bought and sold, thus they lack credibility.  I hate that.  Love Jeremy Paxman.

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