(Closed) US: Worst in the world for breastfeeding support

posted 6 years ago in Babies
Post # 3
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2011

Sadly it’s probably pretty spot on. I don’t have a lot of experience wtih the “in the workplace” issue b/c I’m self employed but I do recall about 6 months ago a woman that was fired in Houston b/c she was taking time to pump at work even though they couldn’t legally do so b/c her lactating would be considered a “side effect” of her “conditon” aka having been pregnant.

That and most hospitals are terrible about being supportive of breastfeeding. I mean they say they’re supportive but then start pushing moms that baby needs “x” amount of wet/dirty diapers output, which is fine, but they use the amount of what a formula fed baby should be putting out, not a breasfed baby. When baby isn’t putting out said amount they start telling mom she needs to supplement & this ultimately just causes momma to feel like she’s not doing something right. =/

And then there’s the pediatrician who just follows suite of the hospital. Supportive until baby isn’t gaining appropriately (again these charts are many times based on formula fed baby growth not breastfed babies). Rather than helping moms find information on upping their supply they many times immediately suggest supplimenting. Sigh

Breastfeeding is HARD, even when mommas have alot of support. The medical and professional community here in the states certainly don’t make it any easier. =/

Post # 4
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2010

This isn’t a surprise to me. It’s sad, and another reason to move to Canada lol

Post # 5
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

I haven’t experienced this directly–I haven’t had the kid yet and I’m a student, so I don’t have the same kind of job requirements that one might have in say, corporate.

As a woman, I’m of the opinion that the “breastfeeding is best” mantra is one way to return women to the domestic sphere (although I recognize that it also has been instrumental in making headway in allowing women to pump and nurse in public). Don’t get me wrong–I believe in breastfeeding–but doing it, and pumping in lieu of actually doing it, requires a lot of time and yes, makes it difficult for women to keep their jobs. Like I said, I am in support of breastfeeding. But if formula is so bad that we have to condemn women who use it, then we should fix the formula, no?

The article otherwise pretty much says what I think, which is that the US is abysmal when it comes to supporting maternity and paternity leave and we are indeed last among all other developing countries.

Post # 6
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

I know this is going to sound really ignorant, but I really don’t understand what the big deal is with breastfeeding. Why is it such a controversial topic? Is it because she has to expose herself in public?

Post # 7
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

@runsyellowlites:  I think it all depends on where you live. The hospital DS was born in had a lactation consultant at my bedside several times a day to make sure everything was going ok, holds lactation meetings twice a week, and has a warm line for calling whenever necessary. They also work closely with WIC which is a huge supporter of breastfeeding. Most of the hospitals in this area have programs like this. And our pediatrician which is the same one my eldest has been going to is a huge supporter and we have never had any problems with them trying to push formula. They are also the ped that is linked to the hospital.

I will agree with the article on the fact that most employers not understanding of breastfeeding needs. I know if I had gone right back to the same job because it was with the state it wouldn;t have been a problem, but private sector is a different animal entirely. Most people get 15 minute breaks and a half hour lunch. Hard to pump on that schedule.

Post # 8
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2011

@StormyRose:  I had lactation consultants in both hospitals I delivered at & had no latch issues, BUT when DS and Dirty Delete weren’t outputting 6 wet/dirty diapers a day, the nurses started strongly suggesting supplementing… I’ve heard this same thing from alot of moms. =( I only later found out that the output of wet/dirty dipes for bf babies is actually the same number as days old until day 4… not the 6 a day that a formula fed baby would have. I wish someone would tell the hospitals here in Texas that! lol

Thankfully this go round DD’s pedi has been VERY supportive & I haven’t had any issues there (except for the dumb ENT that won’t clip her tongue tied tongue for 6 mths b/c there’s “no way it would affect breastfeeding…pff)

Post # 9
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2011

@runsyellowlites:  I disagree, the hospital where my son was born at they pushed and pushed for breastfeeding and discouraged formula feeding.  They would rather see a woman Boyfriend or Best Friend than supplement.  In fact when my milk wasn’t coming in as fast they actually have a milk bank from other mothers who had extra milk . 

A lacation specialist was on call at all times to help out, which for me used several times. 

I have to agree with Storm0075 it all depends on where you live.

Post # 10
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2011

@Sassygrn:  That’s why in my reply I said I wish someone would tell the hosptials here in Texas about being more supportive, since I can only go by my experiences and the experiences of the other moms I know here and in other forums.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

🙁 I nursed Dirty Delete for 13 months, 6 months exclusively. Pumping at work was a nightmare – I worked in an office of 250, 220 of whom were male, and the only room with privacy and a lock also had a video game system so I had to fight for pumping time with guys playing street fighter. My boss was not supportive of me taking two 15 minute breaks to pump…I would even get called out for taking a lunch break. Mind you, I also worked in HR 🙁

I am really proud of myself for nursing that long, but the first time I had to give her formula because I just didn’t have enough pumped, I cried all day and apologized for poisoning her. I wish we had more maternity leave, paid maternity leave, or at least enforced mandates for pumping at work.

Post # 13
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

We’re also first in infant mortality rates in the developed world….among a few other truly horrible “firsts”. This doesn’t surprise me in the least.

Post # 14
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: April 2010

Nursing is hard.  It is all consuming.  We didn’t have latch or supply problems and still breastfeed after 1 year and it is still hard.  Working and breastfeeding is even more difficult.  I did it when I worked 6 am to 4 pm.  I worked a government job so they had to accommodate me but it is still not easy.  Hiding for 20 min at a time.  So yeah of course we rank badly.  And I had issues with my boss when I got pregnant (even though that’s illegal).  I got a new job when he was 9 months old and it’s still hard.  I am so happy we are pump weaned now.

Post # 15
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

@Ellegee:  really??? poisoning her? how would you be poisoning her by feeding her formula? i mean, technology is pretty advanced and they can get it pretty close to the real thing as far as nutrients go.

Post # 16
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

@persianprincess:  There are antibodies and other immunity-boosting benefits to breastmilk. It’s a similar argument to eating healthy vs taking vitamins. Yes, you can get nutrients from vitamins, but it is much better/easier processed by the body when it’s in its natural and original form.

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