Vegan/Whole30?

posted 1 year ago in Food
Post # 2
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

mspenny :  I’ve done Whole30 6 times over the past 2.5 years. It completely changed my eating habits and my life. I’ve pretty much completely eliminated gluten, legumes, soy and (cow) dairy from my diet. I sleep better, my skin looks fantastic, I’m much less bloated, I no longer have the afternoon “slump” after lunch. . . I could go on and on.

A few things:

– I highly recommend reading the book “It Starts With Food”. The book explains the science behind the Whole30 program. 

– Follow @whole30recipes on Instagram. The account features a different person each week who posts 3 recipes per day, all Whole30 approved.

– Some of my favorite websites for recipes: https://www.paleorunningmomma.com/ (not all recipes are Whole30, but a lot are), https://www.skinnytaste.com/ (has recipes tagged as Whole30), Paleo Bailey (http://www.paleobailey.com/), Emily Eats Real Food (http://www.emilyeatsrealfood.com/).

– I find Whole30 easiest to do in the summer! A lot of my meals aren’t recipes, but just meat (grilled chicken, pork tenderloin, fish); vegetable (roasted, sauteed, salad); and fat (dressing, mayonnaise, olives, avocado) on a plate. 

I have a list of my favorite things from the grocery store, as well as some other info about meal prep that I can post if you’re interested. 

Post # 3
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Bumble Beekeeper

My husbannd is currently doing  the whole 30 for the third time. I’m not the hugest fan of the diet because it’s so restrictive and for my husband at least, not sustainable. He always loses a good amount of weight while on it but promptly gains it back as soon as the diet ends because he goes crazy after the 30 days (which you’re not supposed to do obviously). This time, he’s being a little less severe with the diet – like he’ll cheat once a week and he’s also eating legumes now and again cause he’s a pescatarian. He’s claiming that he’s not even counting the days this time and intends this to be a permanent lifestyle change…we’ll see.

I will say that when he’s on this diet, he feels much better physically, sleeps better, doesn’t snore at all, and his GI issues that he has the rest of the time which I won’t go into here all but disappear. So I definitely think there are good things about it, but the challenge for him has been sustaining the lifestyle change after the 30 days are up.

I have never done the whole30 cause carbz r lyfe, but I do try to cook whole30 food for dinner at least to accommodate him. We eat a lot of fish, potato and vegetable dishes (again, pescatarian). For lunch, he’ll usually have a big salad with avocado and tuna. He’ll snack on almonds and fruits throughout the day. Breakfast is usually eggs of some kind.

The most remarkable thing for me in watching him go through this is how quickly his appetite shrinks when he’s on the diet. It’s insane. This man is normally insatiable…like he needs a feeding every few hours or he thinks he’s dying. He’ll have a normal breakfast and then by 11am need a sandwich, and then more sandiwches around 1pm. If we eat dinner before 7pm, he’ll need a second dinner before he goes to bed or he claims he feels “weak.” On the flip side, if we are going out for dinner and have reservations after 7pm, he’ll need to eat a pre-dinner sandwich before or else he’ll starve on the 15 min ride to the restaurant. Seriously. And god forbid we have any snacks in the house – they will disappear in minutes. I’m pregnant now and was dealing with severe morning sickness in the first tri – I almost divorced him one day when I went to grab my box of ritz crackers (like the only thing I could keep down at the time) and he had eaten the whole box!!!!!!!!!!!

But that is beside the point lol. Anyway, once he’s on the whole 30, within a couple days he is eating three normal-sized meals a day like a normal person without effort! It is kind of magical…but again, is it sustainable for you? That is the big question.

Post # 4
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Helper bee

I’m vegan. I was vegetarian, and then discovered that I have an intolerance to eggs and dairy due to some digestive issues. Getting rid of eggs and dairy has been great. Eating out can be hard, but it’s usually not that bad. I have whole pinterest boards of recipes, if you want to PM me I can send you those and make some specific recipe recommendations. I’d also suggest the app PlateJoy for someone just starting out with veganism. It gives great, easy recipe suggestions, makes a mealplan for you, makes a shopping list, etc. It makes veganism (and other diets) easy! If you’re not a big cook, it would be a great investment, and it’s only like $10/month.

 

Edit to say I think PlateJoy also has Whole30, though not vegan+whole30

Post # 5
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

tiffanybruiser :  I will say, the first couple times I did Whole30, I just went right back to my old eating habits. It took doing it multiple times for things to start to “stick”. Feeling better started to outweight the food I wasn’t able to eat. Maybe that will happen for your husband! 

Having done Whole30 with a partner who wasn’t supportive, he’s very lucky to have you supporting him! 

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2014

Vegan and Whole30 are not compatible. It’s not possible to do a vegan Whole30, you have to modify it slightly because a standard Whole30 eliminates basically any source of vegan protein and the Whole30 website and resources do make some recommendations on how to do it. Whole30 relies a lot on meat and eggs. 

I’ve done the Whole30 and I lost a bunch of weight, but really didn’t see many “non-scale victories”, as they call them. I pretty much felt the same. I do think it’s a great way to reset your cravings and your hunger. Like PPs husband, I’m one to be always hungry but after a week on the Whole30, I would never be crazy hungry. I also stopped craving junk food and sweets. It’s not really a very sustainable diet long term though because it’s so restrictive, but I do think you can learn some things and modify it to make it more sustainable after the 30 days. 

Post # 7
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Bumble Beekeeper

sarfin914 :  That’s really good to hear that it eventually started to stick for you! I’m hopeful this time will do the trick. I think it’s good dh is allowing himself occasional cheat days….I think that takes the pressure off a bit and makes it more likely he’ll be able to carry on in the long run. We’ll see…

ETA: I’m sorry your partner isn’t more supportive! It would definitely be tough to do a diet this severe without support. Does he just not believe in it or something?

Post # 8
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2018

I feel you! I’ve had digestive issues for the past couple years now. I’ve eliminated gluten, most dairy(lactose intolerant), some nuts(peanuts and walnuts), legumes, certain veggies and fruits(hard for my body to digest), carbonation and chocolate. I think that’s it! Lol. 

I would do one thing at a time for better results otherwise may be really hard to stick to. I would try eating as you are now but just adding in gluten free. Once you have that down then I would try whole30. 

I find a lot of great recipes on Pinterest and many of the things you love can be altered to different versions to suit your new lifestyle. Cooking will be experimental for now until you get more comfortable with it. I have a ton of good food that is gluten free and follows all of my restrictions. 

My diet though is very similar to paleo/keto which is very different from yours since you can’t have meat otherwise I would share some recipes. It’s pretty much impossible for me to be vegetarian or vegan since I can’t have like half of veggies and some fruits. 

I feel so MUCH better now though and think eating for your body is very worth it to be healthy, and to feel and look good. 

Also I find most non chain restaurants to be very accommodating and I can still have lots of yummy things. 

Good luck bee! Xo 

Post # 9
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

If you have digestive issues you want to diagnose, talk to your doctor or dietician about doing a supervised elimination diet – Whole30 isn’t great for that because it makes you cut a ton of stuff at once, muddling results. A proper elimination diet takes out one thing at a time.

That said, I saw great results on a modified Whole30 (I kept some dairy, namely milk, butter, and yogurt) – lost several pounds, dropped an inch or two off my waist, and felt almost manic.  I added back the dairy because going whole hog with it was triggering all these neurotic, orthorexic behaviors in me, which was bad.

Also, I recommend staying away from their forum because I found it to be pretty toxic.  Also the mods were kinda bitchy and generally patronizing and judgemental.  Bad vibe in general.  And if you read the book, take it with a block of salt because the science they spout off isn’t all that sound.  At the end of the day though, the diet DOES work, but it’s probably because you’re just eating clean.  Processed carbs and added sugar are the worst.  Basically, any sort of paleo diet will do the same thing.

Post # 10
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: February 2019 - City, State

mspenny :  whole 30/AIP. My mom has an autoimmune disease and switched to AIP and she’s been doing amazing. I’d definitely start there. 

Post # 11
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Busy bee

I’m not too familiar with it but you can’t really go wrong with eating a whole foods plant based diet. I make lots of salads (adding in legumes to make them more filling), I also love a variety of fried veggies, stews & soups. Not sure if fruit is allowed on this diet but I’ve been enjoying buying frozen fruit and filling up a cup with it with some water and chia seeds, then blending it into a thick cold fruity dessert. 

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

mspenny :  I’m with you, girl. Lactose intolerant, egg sensitivity, GI issues, feeling poorly all the time. I finally reached a point where I was sick of always feeling bloated and gross. 2 weeks ago I started an elimination diet and cut out everything but whole foods. The first week was hard and I was a very cranky lady. Then it became easier to find/make healthy options consistently. Now, I add in a specific food every 2-4 days and see how my body reacts. Almond milk destroys my stomach but lactose-free milk is fine. Potato chips weren’t horrible but definitely caused a bit of bloating. I had 8oz of coffee this morning and so far I feel fine. I have not tried adding gluten back yet but will probably attempt it late next week. 

Results so far: No more bloating, minimal tummy/GI issues (tied to certain foods), dopped a few pounds, shrunk a couple of inches, more restful sleep, skin is glowy, eyes are bright, and lots of energy. I work out 3-5x per week, cardio and weights and we walk our dogs for 1-3 miles every night. 

Things that I found helpful: 

1. Supportive Partner: my spouse is a very conscientous eater and his diet is very clean as well; we cook dinner together almost every night. 

2. Snacks: I’m a champion snacker and I love nibbling on things all the time; I keep fruit, carrots, dark chocolate, almonds, etc. with me at all times. 

3. Fluids: drink lots of water. Add lemon, mint, basil, blueberries, whatever. 

4. Journal: log your food intake so you can review your meals/snacks for any triggers. Buy a cute journal and carry it with you all the time. I’m still really bad at doing this consistently. Maybe try taking photos of your meals/snacks. 

5. Mentality: it’s really hard to do gluten-free when you’re also lactose-intolerant. Just sayin. Be prepared to be frustrated and disappointed with food options; I promise it does get easier! Keep trying till you find foods that work for you. 

Foods we love: cauliflower rice, zucchini noodles, adding spinach to most meals, adding corn/peas/carrots/celery/bell peppers to foods, blackened chicken (my fave), lettuce wraps, avocado, brown rice, roasted veggies (potatoes, yams, zucchini, carrots, etc.), almond butter, frozen bananas, lactose-free yogurt, chia pudding, turkey burgers. 

Good luck! 

tiffanybruiser :  Interesting! I’ve noticed that my appetite has also decreased noticeably since starting this plan 2 weeks ago. I also no longer get that overwhelming/crazy hunger that overrides my reason and causes me to make poor food choices (eat all the things). Without that hangry-brain, I’m able to make smarter meal/snack choices. 

Post # 13
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Helper bee

mspenny :  Did they test you for celiac disease? 

Post # 14
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Bumble Beekeeper

Miss-Mauverick :  I’m glad you’re feeling so much better on your new diet! And yeah the hangry-brain thing sounds exactly like what dh experiences when he’s not on this diet!

Post # 15
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Sugar bee

Could you try seeing a naturopath or nutritionist? That sounds really challenging and you might want the added opinion of a food/diet based specialist (in addition to your GP, not instead). 

I would be wary of doing vegan AND whole 30. You’re going to have a really hard time with your energy levels and getting enough protein on that. I was a strict vegetarian for 10+ years because I’m also allergic to eggs and any time I tried to go on one of those diets like whole 30, paleo, wild rose etc. I would be starving and fall down tired and often genuinely sick 90% of the time because they’re not suited to people who can’t get the protein, iron, and b vitamins from meat.

Personally I’d suggest eliminating gluten and all processed foods first – stick to veggies, fruits, grains & legumes, and remember that cooked food is easier to digest than raw. There IS such a thing as too much salad for some people (I know from personal experience 🙁 ) Cutting grains and legumes when you’re already not getting any animal protein sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. 

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