Post # 16
Derp: At any event in which my employer has required me to work through my “lunch break” they have in fact provided food for me. Additionally, you are employing them for one day, not years. When I work as a contractor my rate is on top of a per-diem amount for food so yes, actually, when I work on a per-diem basis I DO expect my employer to provide me food. I’ve also worked at a number of companies that do provide food for their employees every day, so I guess you haven’t had the privilege of working for a top-tier employer like that.
I’m pretty sure you’d be pissed if your photographer took off to mcdonalds in the middle of your wedding. So if you won’t let them leave, then you’re obligated to feed them.
<br />It’s my personal opinion that a box lunch is not sufficient, but maybe that’s because I’m asking a photographer to give up their weekend to come take pictures of me and I’d really like that person to be happy, even if it’s not the bare minimum someone else is MAKING me do. That’s being a nice person and not someone that a vendor has to smear on facebook for being a sucky bride.
Post # 17
i think all vendors should put “hot meal” in the contact.
1, they don’t actually have time to go get something and weddings and go up to 13 hrs or even longer
2, i wouldn’t want someone working at my wedding to be hungry / eating cold food and expect they do fabulous work for me. it just NOT smart
3, its physical demanding
Post # 18
When you contract a venue or cater for vender meals, I doubt many break down what is in it. I know the few I have dealt with just ask “Do you want to give a vender meal?” and that can be interpreted to mean anything. And the few that I have seen is half the cost of a plate. If I’m paying $100 per plate, and then $50 per vender meal, I’m going to assume (probably wongly) that a $50 meal is going to be at least okay.
Vender meals unless in the contract are a curtosey to your vender in exchange for the vender not taking off to find something to eat. I don’t think venues/caters should only offer crappy food, but it is not the bride’s fault with 100 other details to assume that a caterer is going to at least give the vender something worth eating. And it is VERY tacky for a vender to call it out on social media. Not just to the venue, but any of the brides friends who follow their page are going to see it and embarase her as well.
Post # 19
- Wedding: Royal Park Hotel
wntrwhte: Ok well let’s pump the breaks for a second.
A – you’re acting as if the first sentence of my OP did not state that I made sure everyone was fed a very nice, plated dinner.
B – again, you’re making it sound like you assume my photographer, planner and DJ did not have a single second to take a break. They actually all did at some point have at least 30-40 minutes to step away.
C- I wouldn’t care if my photog stepped away from my wedding to go get McDonalds. She doesn’t need to be there for every second of the evening. 4 hours of dancing does not mean we need 4 hours of her taking all dance candids.
D- “I’m asking a photographer to give up their weekend to come and take pictures of me.”
Close – more like you’re paying a photographer to do a job they signed up for. They’re not volunteering. You act like you’re the evil seer making people do work they don’t want to do.
I’m all for keeping someone elses comforts in the forefront of my mind but….you sound like you have a massive case of vendor guilt.
Post # 20
Derp: No, my vendors are very happy with me. I don’t have a case of vendor guilt however I am friends with many people who provide these services who have neverending stories about how badly brides and their families treat them.
You’re the one who started the thread, and you’re the one who made the comment about “my employer doesn’t feed me so why should I feed anyone else” maybe treating others BETTER than you are treated is a nice way to pay it forward. I believe in being a nice person and to me, asking someone to give up their weekend (PAY OR NOT) and then they show up and spend 13+ hours with you and all you give them is a turkey sandwich on wonder bread while your “real” guests are stuffing their faces with filet, well I don’t think that’s being a gracious host. The photographer is still your guest whether they’re being paid or not.
Someone else said that people don’t understand vendor meals and maybe they don’t. But I know several wedding photographers and there are many who didn’t even get offered that, and that is just plain rude.
But then again, I give my UPS guy a cold water bottle every day in the summer and a coffee every day in the winter. I guess I’m too nice.
Post # 21
wntrwhte: …or too self-righteous.
They are not “giving up” their weekend: they are a wedding photographer, and that’s when they work. If you don’t want to “give up” your weekends, choose another career.
You are not “hosting” your vendors. They work for you. My boss isn’t hosting me when I show up at the office.
And for the record, we fed all our vendors the same food we ate.
Post # 22
My caterer recommended that we give our vendors easy bagged food because they can grab a bite when they have time, as they usually don’t have time to sit and eat a full plated meal because they are supposed to be working. It’s supposed to be convenient to the vendor. It doesn’t have to be a gross sandwich, it can still be yummy…
Post # 23
wntrwhte: “Be a gracious host and provide them real food. “
But… in this situation you aren’t playing host. You are playing employee/contractor. I firmly believe that vendors should be given a meal, but I don’t feel that it’s necessary to serve vendors a guest meal. You can easily have up to 10 vendors working your wedding, this could cost $1000 in extra meals. If a reception hall chooses to serve a crappy vendor meal, honestly – that’s on them. And maybe if vendors took the issue up with the hall, it would be fixed. But I don’t think this falls on the bride (I did ask my venue what the meal is and it’s a nice hot meal, just not a filet mignon).
Post # 24
sara_tiara: Agree to disagree. I don’t agree with treating people like servants.
I don’t treat my regular employees at my day job like they owe me for giving them a job to do that I pay them for. That seems like a pretty bad attitude.
My vendors have mostly turned into friends, so no, it is not just “contractor/employer” for us.
Post # 25
wntrwhte: ….and where did I say to treat anyone like a servant? I actually specifically stated I fed all of my vendors the same meal I ate. Still doesn’t change the fact that I wasn’t hosting them, as they were there to work, which is, you know, why they got paid. And tipped.
Post # 26
“But then again, I give my UPS guy a cold water bottle every day in the summer and a coffee every day in the winter. I guess I’m too nice.”
Post # 27
Derp: Yeah, I would not be impressed if any of my vendors acted like that. If you want to act like that on your personal Facebook account do so at your own risk. On your business profile? That’s unprofessional. Any of the vendors who commented on it are just as at fault. There needs to be a certain level of professionalism no matter how you actually feel.
Post # 28
I highly doubt that you would’ve been ok if your photographer stepped away to go to McDonald’s Lol.
Honesty, as an occasional wedding vendor myself, I think you are taking that post too personally. Yes it was your food that happened to be photographed, but it could’ve been anyone’s. This is a common complaint among vendors. It sucks to be on your feet all day, usually with ome break that only lasts about 30 minutes. It sucks to get shitty food when you are busting your ass and probably starving. We all deal with it, but it’s always nice when we happen to work an event that provides is with good food…and enough of it. It was unprofessional for sure, but the post was probably a general rant (hence the reason why other vendors chimed in to relate) and not necessarily aimed at you. I wouldn’t worry about it much.
Post # 29
People need to stop with their sense of entitlement already! In what other industry is it acceptable to demand a meal and then complain that the free meal wasn’t good enough?
I get that the vendors need breaks. That is the law for a reason. But what is without reason is to expect a certain type of meal.
If one finds a plethora of unsatisfactory free meals, then one should learn to pack their own.
Post # 30
Normally, though, a DJ doesn’t work that long. Most receptions are about 4-5 hours. I could go 4-5 hours without eating.