(Closed) Venue Requires Mandatory Tip – on Top of Gratuity?

posted 5 years ago in Money
Post # 3
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

If this is what you were told intiitally, I would not tip.

Post # 4
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

@dragonlover:  Unless someone gives you service that goes above and beyond, I wouldn’t tip.  A gratuity is a tip and your venue sounds pretty unreasonable.

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

@Cappugcino:  +1. You don’t have to tip if there’s a gratuity charge. And since they didn’t tell you this before hand, when you explicitly asked about it, I wouldn’t tip. I hope the maitre de and bridal attendant get their percentage of gratuity though, and I would ask about that.

Post # 6
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

The service charge most likely isn’t a tip.  Its a service charge.

My venue in NJ is charging us $85 pp + 20% service charge + tax + a suggested $700-$800 for the Maitre D.  We were told up front that this is the recommended tip.   Even so they are still one of the cheaper places in the area.  

Post # 7
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

If you’re paying a gratuity, and this tip they want you to pay isn’t included in the contract you signed. Then personally, I wouldn’t give them a tip. Now if they go above and beyond the call of duty, I might. But under normal circumstances, I wouldn’t.

Post # 10
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: March 2014

Even though it would have been so much easier in terms of planning, I have heard about this happening with friends several times and it turned me off places like this. I know the majority probably aren’t like this, but I have heard some horror stories about the nickle-and-diming that goes on.

 

That said, I would definitely not tip twice. That’s ridiculous and you are already paying plenty!

 

I know it’s still infuriating to be asked, though it seems to be optional. Just try and focus on how good the food will be, and how much more convenient it will be that you have them organizing everything.

 

 

 

Post # 11
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

I would definitely try to find out what exactly that original service charge you were told about actually covers. I agree that you shouldn’t have to tip twice. BUT, if that service charge isn’t covering those people mentioned, then you will be shorting them of their hard earned money because you are angry that someone ELSE told you that you had to tip them (they themselves didn’t have anything to do with that person’s crappy behaviour).  

So I’d definitely clarify. If it IS a double tip, yeah, I wouldn’t pay it unless you thought they did an amazing job and deserved extra.

Post # 12
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1671 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

is the $16 the service charge or the tip? They are usually different. 

Post # 13
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

A gratuity is a tip, end of story. A service charge is, in my opinion, usually also a tip. You should not be expected to tip twice, it sounds like they are just trying to gouge you.

 

 

 

Post # 14
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

@carnivaltheme:  Surely if the venue is stiffing the staff of their tip, that is something the staff need to take up with the venue, not the couple who have already tipped them once.

 

Post # 15
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

@Arrowchan:  true – I just hope the staff would be aware if that is the situation.  The venue could easily just tell them the couple didn’t tip. I hope that isn’t the case though.  Undecided  I personally would just feel better confirming the original contract before assuming on technicalities what it means. If they say, yes, it’s a gratuity that goes to the staff, then great! no extra tip required.  If it isn’t, you are right – they shouldn’t be USING the word gratuity.

Post # 16
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

@dragonlover:  The tip for the Maitre D is not written on the contract, but was written on the proposal.  This is our 2nd time using the venue, so we also knew this would be added.  The kicker is that I’m only having 50 people, so he is receiving a $16 pp tip. on top of the 20% pp service charge. 

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