Post # 1
Pick which option best describes you, and give further explanation below. I realize other religions/secular individuals are pro-peace, it was just too much to include in a poll. Include that information in your comment.
Post # 3
I’m an atheist, and I believe war is acceptable in rare cases. I think the US is way too aggressive and involved on the world stage in matters that do not involve us. However, when things like Nazi Germany arise, you bet I believe major world powers should get their butts in there and start a war.
Post # 4
I’m a Christian and while I wouldn’t say war is morally right, I do think it’s necessary at times.
“Do you know why this world is as abad as it is?…It is because people think only about their own business, and won’t trouble themselves to stand up for the oppressed, nor bring the wrong-doers to light…My doctrine is this, that if we see cruelty or wrong that we have the power to stop, and do nothing, we make ourselves sharers in the guilt.”
― Anna Sewell
, Black Beauty
Post # 5
Out of curiosity – do crusades count as war?
Post # 6
@RunsWithBears: That is exactly what I was going to say, I am Christian and I do not believe war is right but I do believe it is sometimes necessary.
Post # 8
@annabelle_lee: I would consider them wars.
Post # 9
I guess I’ll give my opinion in it. I don’t believe war is ever right, or ever necessary. I think sometimes it’s difficult to find alternative solutions to problems, so we choose to solve problems by brute force, in the name of justice.
I also think that war begats more war, Hitler likely would have never come into power if not for the reparations and guilt clause Germany was held to after WW1. I am all about protecting and helping the suffering. I just think there are better ways to do that than war.
Post # 10
I’m not religious, but I think no matter what religion you are war is just necessary sometimes. I don’t really get the current war in the middle east, but Hitler SUCKED. If the Allies hadn’t fought him, we might all be speaking German and hating Jewish people (or living in a world free of them completely).
Post # 11
I’m not a Christian and I abhor war and think it’s never morally right. It may be humanly right in cases like the Nazi’s but morally I think killing people is wrong.
Post # 12
there’s wars in the bible – its just not called “war” necessarily. It sucks yes but its right and needed in many cases. I mean the bible says “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth”… in other words – you attack us – we’ll attack you. You come after us and kill thousands of our ppl on 9/11 – you gonna die. Wars are always started for a reason. The US atleast usually doesn’t just go off bombing or attacking ppl we don’t like just cus we feel like it… except in human rights cases (like the nazis for example).
Post # 13
@Kate0558: There’s also prostitution in the bible, but that doesn’t mean its morally right.
On another note, are you Jewish? I ask because Jesus specifically mentions the quote you just used, as an example of incorrect thinking in his sermon on the mount. I’m on my phone, so I can’t give the exact quote this second. But it’s along the lines of, ” I have heard it said an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth. But, I come to say if someone should strike your right check, turn to them your other also.”
Granted, that probably has some mistakes in it. I’ll post the exact quote when I have a computer.
Post # 14
Found it! Matthew 5 38-42
38 You have heard that it has been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say to you, That you resist not evil: but whoever shall smite you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue you at the law, and take away your coat, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever shall compel you to go a mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him that asks you, and from him that would borrow of you turn not you away.
Post # 15
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Great post topic!
I find the Catholic Just War doctrine to be very interesting – we studied it a great deal when I was in high-school, right after 9/11. The Bible seems to walk such a fine line between peace (ie Stoppy321‘s above quote from Matthew) and violence/war (ie Luke 22:36 “He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one”).
I appreciated Catholic Answers’ article on the Just War doctrine, particularly this little paragraph:
In broad terms, Christians must not love violence. They must promote peace whenever possible and be slow to resort to the use of arms. But they must not be afraid to do so when it is called for. Evil must not be allowed to remain unchecked.
That article might provide some food for thought for people who would like to look deeper into this issue.
For those that are curious, the Catechism of the Catholic Church currently states:
The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:
– the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
– all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
– there must be serious prospects of success;
– the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modem means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.
These are the traditional elements enumerated in what is called the “just war” doctrine
Post # 16
@Mrs. Candy Apple: Yes! I’m Catholic, and find the doctine very interesting as well. I’ve heard some pretty strong critiques against it, but overall find it to be very true. I think it highlights that violence and war are never right, but can be just depending on the circumstances.
I do wonder how catholic organizations such as pax christi view the just war doctrine.