Was I wrong to call out a racially charged comment on social media?

posted 2 years ago in Relationships
Post # 121
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

 collegebee : 

“Thug is a popular identity in rap culture.”  

Why is this relevant to this situation. The young man was an athlete not a rapper. What on earth makes you think that every black person does/should identify with rap culture?

“As for black people using the word thug, it is their prerogative. Me personally, if they find it offensive I don’t think they should use it

Black people are not a monolith. I have no control over what some rapper decides to call himself but I guarantee you that my husband nor my father would want to be called a “Thug” by anyone, just because some rapper names himself Baby Thug, or whatever have you. Sorry, but there is no ‘black prerogative’. Whatever point you were trying to make here fell astonishingly flat.

“Was the Bama player a thug? Thug was not the word that came to mind for me, because thug has criminal connotations. I thought jerk or classless. I don’t know OP’s friend’s mom’s intent, so I can’t speak to that.”

Based on the context that OP has provided, I think it’s safe to say that OP’s friend’s mom’s intent is obvious. According to OP:

1. Friend has admitted that her family is racist

2. Friend’s mom would not approve of her dating a black guy

3. Friend’s mom has made several racist comments in front of OP in the past

Given these 3 things above, and the fact that this woman called a young black athelete, who wasn’t engaging in criminal behavior a “Thug”, I think it’s pretty safe to say the comment was racist. I find it odd that you’re arguing so hard that it wasn’t, given the details that OP provided. 

 “I don’t think “thug” has inherently racial undertones. I’m from the Northeast and it was always understood that “thug” meant a gangster/criminal, usually from an urban area, encompassing people of all races.”

The majority of bees on this thread have informed you that it does have racial undertones for many people. If you do some further research outside of the bee, I suspect you’ll find the same. It’s no longer enough to say that ‘for you’ it doesn’t have racial undertones, when so many people have expressed how offensive it is. 

Post # 122
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

OP, I wish more people would speak out about this kind of thing. I think a social media post is completely appropriate way to do it. You did nothing wrong.

Post # 122
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: July 2018

glimmeringpink96 :   lmfao. My PROBLEM is that this white whore is racist and anti black specifically. You didn’t have to insert your ugly big head and accuse me of starting problems when nobody called you. 

Actually you specifically tagged me despite the fact that I didn’t make any reference to you. 

Post # 124
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Bumble Beekeeper

KittyYogi :  

 I think it must be an American thing, the racial use of the word ‘thug’ , judging  from other responses   here, In   Australia we would take it to mean a  physically agressive criminal type,  of any race . 

If it was used racially , then OP was, imo, at liberty to call the poster out on it if she found it offnsive . Same goes for sexist or similar comments . 

ETA I see I’m late posting and this has been said several  times before. I also see I’ve missed some hideous name calling ……

Post # 125
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Bumble Beekeeper

callallai :  

I understand your feelings , but all the world is not American,  Bee. We are not in   “in denial/ playing the innocent. Puh-lease” we are English/Australian/ New Zealander /Asian etc and  are more or less surprised and shocked at the way the word  has  been co-opted in the US. . 

Post # 126
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Blushing bee

 

elderbee :  I’m not in or from the US either, but yes I should be more understanding of other views, sorry for the offense

Post # 127
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

Ok so I’ve only ever really heard the term thug being used for big burly white criminals, but aside from that bone of contention in this thread and the differing personal opinions, your friend definitely sounds racist and you were right to call that out.

Post # 128
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

elderbee :  agree with all you’ve said to as an Aussie, including having missed a lot

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