(Closed) Wedding Album Help Needed

posted 10 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2008

I hear ya’ – I feel the same way!

I searched and searched and struggled to find a place that would work with the public. I even fell in love with Queensberry albums… sigh. The best that I could find was http://www.albumart.com, which submits your orders for you. Someone gave me a good suggestion, that I haven’t tried, which is to contact the album company you like and ask for the name of a photographer that works with them, who then may be willing to create the album for you. They may even be able to give you the name of a designer, since I know some photographer outsource. You may need to get permission from your photographer to do this.

Our photographer doesn’t do albums at all, so I might just go with a flushmount album from mpix or somerset after all. I’m tired of thinking about it. Have you tried asking your photographer? Perhaps they’d be willing to offer matted albums if they new there was a market. 

I’ll be watching to see if anyone has any better ideas! 

Post # 5
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: December 1969

Ooh! I have a relatively inexpensive and simple solution. There is a huge photo store in Chicago called Helix Camera. At the store they sell these really nice black leather albums in all different sizes. Inside they have nice black cardboard pages which have an adhesive applied to them. You print your photo at a photo place (you can use Mpix.com for quality prints) then peel the backing off the pages and apply the photo. It sounds kind of weird but I promise they look really nice in real life! I’m sure if you call them they will be happy to ship one to you. They even have super adorable tiny chunky albums that are perfect for grandparents or bridesmaids. I am so tempted to buy one for myself every time I go in there. They have always been very good with customer service for me. Their website is

http://www.helixcamera.com

 

Post # 7
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Worker bee

Hi Emily,

I don’t know where you’re located, but I’d suggest you keep looking for photographers in your area that do offer matted albums. Many still do! It sounds like you want a more traditional leather album such as Leather Craftsmen or Zookbinders that offer both flush mount and matted albums to professional photographers. These are two very popular album companies among wedding photographers and their quality and customer service are excellent. Perhaps if the photographers you talk to offer only flush mount designs from these companies they’d be willing to provide a matted album from the same album company. Can’t hurt to ask.

That being said, sometimes there are misconceptions about flush mount albums. Albums that use thin, paper-like pages and print edge to edge, such as Blurb, MyPublisher, Lulu, etc. do not print on "real" photo paper using traditional photo printing techniques. They use a "press printing" process that is good quality, but the colors aren’t quite up to the standards of "real" photo printing. Plus the books are relatively inexpensive to create, from a materials standpoint.

Flush mount albums from companies such as Leather Craftsmen, Zookbinders, and many others do display pages from edge to edge, but the difference is that the pages are thicker, stronger, and stiffer, and the prints that are mounted are actual real photo prints on photo paper. They are the same prints that go in a matted album, the only difference is that they don’t have a matte around them. The prints are glued to the pages and they go edge to edge. They are fully archival and will last as long as prints in a matted album, because they are the exact same thing!

Other companies, such as Vision Art, also print flush mount albums but they use archival quality ink jet prints that match or exceed the archival quality of traditional photo printing. 

So don’t worry about the archival quality of the high quality flush mount albums. However, if you simply prefer the look and feel of the traditional matted album that’s perfectly fine. I like peachypear’s idea of contacting an album company you like and asking them which photographers in your area use their matted albums. That’s a great idea because they should be treating you as a future customer!

Good luck!

Joe Milton
International Society of Professional Wedding Photographers

 

Post # 9
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Newbee
  • Wedding: January 2003

If you get a flush mount album from a good source, these are actual photos printed by a pro photo lab and then mounted permanently onto the pages.  They are made to last for a LONG time if you get them from a quality company.

Post # 10
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: January 2008

EVER Album Design (http://www.everalbumdesign.com) works with photographers and the public. A photographer friend of mine has them do his designs for his flush mount wedding books. They do great album design work for weddings, very elegant and it’s inexpensive. They have alot of album layouts to choose from and they even do custom design work for wedding and portrait albums.

Post # 11
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Wannabee
  • Wedding: June 2009

You should check out EvensWood Albums!!

They have really nice designs and they work with the public. As a bonus they give you a slideshow of your photos for free and all you have to do is send them a CD of your images and they will design everything for you. Here is the website {www.evenswoodowlbums.com}

Let me know what you think!

Post # 12
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Newbee
  • Wedding: May 2006

If you are looking for someone to help you with your wedding album, a graphic designer who specializes in wedding album design is your best option.  As a wedding album designer myself, I can tell you that we designers have access to all of the most respected album manufacturers that photographers do, without the markup. 

I spend a lot of time just educating my clients (brides) about the different album options and price points.  For example, I work with five different print-to-bind companies (Black River Imaging, Zookbinder, Finao, NationsPhotoLab, and BayPhoto) and each one offers something slightly different.  After I create the layouts, I help my clients choose the best album for their budget, upload the layouts, and order the album to be drop-shipped to them  — all at a price that is significantly lower than a photographer would charge for the same thing, and only a little more than it would be for them to try to do it themselves.   Susan Gallagher  

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

@Susan Gallagher:  Without the markup?  Is the implication that photographers are overcharging?  You aren’t offering this service for free so I assume you are charging some sort of design fee.  So if a photographer has a markup, but you have a design fee- money is still going to be made from the production of the album.

That being said it should also be important to state that graphic designers will need a release from the photographer who took the photos in order to send it to print.  You’re making money off of their copyrighted material.

Post # 14
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: January 2008

Absolutely. Whether you’re a designer or pro photographer, there’s a markup and money is being made, no doubt. But a markup depends on who’s making the album and how much of a profit margin they want I guess.

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