Post # 1
We are reviewing a contract from our venue and I was dissapointed to find it very “general”. The coordinator promised (verbally and written in email) several things/services that are included in our rental fee, but the contract does not list them.The coordinator tells me it is a standard contract drawn up by their lawyers and that it can’t be edited. Is this normal, or is it a red flag that they don’t include ALL details in the contract?
Thanks in advance!
Post # 2
Sounds a little fishy. We have a standard contract and were able to add something but still EVERYTHING we talked about with the venue coordinator was included and listed out in the contract down to the kinds of tables we would require and what they would be used for.
Post # 3
Everything you talked about should be included in the contract. If you’re not comfortable with it, have them change it. Vendors will be great at telling you “this is standard” or “no one else has ever had a problem with this before.” They try to make you feel crazy for actually reading contracts or wanting what you’ve spoken about written down. Ignore them and insist. You will be kicking yourself if there is a problem down the line.
Post # 4
This doesn’t sound right. Our contract was very detailed and had everything we’d discussed and agreed upon in prior discussions included.
Post # 5
I’d push back on them. It all has to all be in the contract. If it were ever brought to court they’d tell you if you have a contract and all extra stipulations aren’t in it, those non-listed stipulations don’t exist.
If the contract can’t be edited (which is still hard to believe), you can have an addendum added and force them to sign it.
Post # 6
Standard contract? Normal. Nearly everyone who routinely deals in contracts has a boilerplate contract they use.
Inability to create an addendum? Not normal.
While technically the emails can be considered a enforceable contract if you want to go to all the time and effort if they fight it, I wouldn’t do business with anyone who won’t make it an official addendum to the contract.
Post # 7
is spot on. There is no reason they should not be able to add an addendum or exhibit that lists the additional items that are included in the price. The salesperson is either lazy or making promises she cannot keep.
Post # 8
We had a “standard” contract with rental fees and costs with cancellation, etc, but we also had everything we specifically wanted written into it and it wasn’t called an addendum. So in other words it had standard language on the financial part and what we agreed on as far as tables, setup, etc, written in.
I wouldn’t deal with a venue like what you’re describing. Too many things can go wrong.
Post # 9
Thanks for the advice, all. I’m getting a little concerned. I went back to the coordinator asking that, if the contract can’t be edited, she list the inclusions and sign off on it as a separate document or addendum. She said that’s not something she can do, those things are just part of they’re service “just like having lights on” and to “please do trust” her and she “promises!!!!” there are no hidden fees.
Post # 10
Our venue had a very short, general contract. It was explained to me the reason why is they are primarily a restaurant (even though they have ceremony/event space). I was okay with signing the contract the way it was so long as I had everything else in writing somewhere (mostly e-mails). We had no issues, but there were no real red flags on my part either. It seemed as though they were still figuring out all the small details as they went and they’ll be revising it in the future.
Post # 11
Everything in writing or no deal. Does she have a superior who can sign off on your specific agreements? Things happen–this woman can promise you the world and then may not even be working for this venue by the time your wedding rolls around.
Post # 12
Red Flag. List what is included in an addendum and they can either sign that as well or walk away.