Post # 1
Hey there, I’ve tried WW before with moderate success and have been dabbling with the thought of joining again. Yet, I have heard both positive and negative reviews with this new Freestyle program. Has anyone tried it? What are your thoughts?
Post # 2
- Wedding: July 2017 - State Park
HEY! I started freestyle last week. So far, it *mostly* makes way more sense to me than any other diet.
It boils down to vegetables, fruit, lean and plant based proteins are “free”, and everything else needs to be tracked and measured.
Its great for me, because I don’t like tracking in general, but need a way to keep things in check and measured. It’s honestly the diet I’ve been trying to put myself on for years, but now there’s an app for it!
The cons are that, while it would be difficult to do for more than a few days in a row, you can definitely eat enough fruit, beans, and eggs to have your calories be out of control while still staying within your daily points.
It’s a whole lot of “don’t be stupid”, really. Like, yep, you CAN eat a dozen eggs and a whole pineapple for breakfast. Should you?
Ive disliked weight watchers before because it seemed to push in the direction of processed foods and artificial sweeteners. I’m not feeling that this time.
My only frustration this time is coming from the seeming demonization of any fat in dairy, which I’m working around. Haven’t had my first weigh-in yet, so super early to tell, but it seems really reasonable and fairly sustainable.
Who can really argue with a diet that says “eat mostly fruits, vegetables, and lean protein. Limit everything else.”
Post # 3
As a former lifetime member I’m not liking it at all, in fact I no longer go.
I do understand that approaches to dieting are altered, changed, tweaked etc as new information becomes available in science, nutrition etc BUT I’m totally side-eyeing the fact that these new changes are coincidentally rolled out every January like clockwork in a re-vamped/ re-tooled format marketed to the post-hoilday/ NYE resolutions crowd.
And these annual overhauls of the program have been too much for me to place much faith in them. Okay, count proteins and fibre but not the calories in something. Wait, now we do count calories but no longer fibre? Okay so fats? No, just saturated fats and sugars. Okay now…..yada yada yada. Too many ‘okay this is how we’re doing things’ ‘no, forget that, THIS is how we’re doing things’
And even though I do admire Oprah in many ways, the Oprahfication of WW is a bit off-putting, plays more into the marketing rah-rah angle of it. And it’s hypocritical too because WW gives Oprah a personal one-on-one coach and other perks the average member doesn’t get.
And even though emphasis on fruits, veggies and lean proteins is a good thing, the ‘eat what you want of these foods’ is too vague, because even though healthier, these foods DO have calories, so telling me I can have a four egg omelet with veg and chicken and it’s zero is wtf?
And I disagree with the push against fats in dairy. I actually drink almond milk as a personal preference anyway, but if I’m going to have cheese or yogurt it’s going to be full fat good tasting yogurt- Greek yogurt and cheese that actually has some flavour to it. In small quantities of course. But I think the ‘go as low fat as possible’ is sacrificing quality for quantity. Also, some vitamins are fat-soluble and if you don’t get a decent amount of healthy fats in your diet, the absorption of other vitamins and minerals can be affected.
Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but I’m not impressed.
Post # 4
My mom has done WW on and off the last 10 years and HATES the new Freestyle program.
My mom isn’t really heavy so she had used WW when she wants to lose 10lb or so. I’m trying to remember the names of the other programs she did that were successful – I think one was Points Plus and one was Smart Points. She had more success with those programs because it was more based on a calories in/calories out concept. The bad thing with those programs was because it was mainly based on calories, you could eat crap and still be within your points allowance.
She started to dislike the program when many foods were given 0 points, and that’s the issue she’s having now. My mom’s problem isn’t necessarily what she ate, it was portion size (as is the problem with most people). She already eats a lot of lean protein and fruits and vegetables so she doesn’t agree with the concept that these should be free and not count at all in what you’re eating. Theoretically, one could eat all the free things and a lot of other garbage and still be in your points.
My mom is also ticked about how much the cost of the program has gone up in recent years. She does it online and the cost has more than doubled. It’s not crazy expensive, but you can get the My Fitness Pal app for free (and that’s what I use).
There’s a lot of doctors and scientists that believe that eating low fat isn’t healthy and I think WW doesn’t encourage the healthy fats. I remember reading that avocados are a crazy number of points so if you’re just going by points alone, you’re going to be discouraged to not eat those foods. Full fat (or low fat) vs no fat yogert has more flavor and will make you feel more satisfied so you’ll be less likely to want to eat something else. Again, almonds, like the PP said, have a lot of healthy fats but are a crazy high point value.
If you read the My Fitness Pal forums, there are quite a few posts on this topic, from members that have been lifelong members and have tried all the programs. They’re very intersting to read and bring up a lot of issues already mentioned here.
Post # 5
“It’s the perfect business model. People give Weight Watchers the credit when they lose weight. Then they regain the weight and blame themselves. This sets them up to join Weight Watchers all over again, and they do.
The company brags about this to its shareholders. According to Weight Watchers’ business plan from 2001 (which I viewed in hard-copy form at a library), its members have ‘demonstrated a consistent pattern of repeat enrollment over a number of years,’ signing up for an average of four separate program cycles. And in an interview for the documentary <em style=”-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: inherit; text-rendering: optimizeLegibility; font-feature-settings: ‘lnum’ 1; font-variant-numeric: lining-nums;”>The Men Who Made Us Thin, former CFO Richard Samber explained that the reason the business was successful was because the majority of customers regained the weight they lost, or as he put it: ‘That’s where your business comes from.’”
Post # 6
I joined in December last year. I am loving it, and I feel like it is sustainable for me. I think all of the critiques here are totally valid. I did weight watchers years ago. I liked it, but it felt pretty restricitve to me. However, with Freestyle I feel like I have choices. Even if I don’t pig out on those options, I like to know they are there. It’s teaching me to make the right choices, and that is really what I need.