Post # 1
I could definitely use some third party advice regarding career choices…So a little background on me: I was an elementary school teacher for 4 years and unfortunately burned out (that’s a whole different story!). I know at some point in the far far future I would love to teach more at a college level so I’m obtaining my Ed.D currently. I’m also currently working as a pre-college advisor. However, I have a possible new job opportunity and I can’t decide which road to take!
Here are the pros and cons of the current job as a pre-college advisor:
Pros: short commute, super easy job (I often times find myself bored or without stuff to do as I only advise during 2 class periods)
Cons: took a big pay cut after teaching (getting paid about $8k less annually), not being challenged
The potential job offer is a program manager position where I would be overseeing a new pre-med program at a local hospital and work with college students. Here are the pros/cons of the new job:
Pros: pay increase of $8k and better benefits, high pace work environment, working with college students at a local hospital
Cons: far commute (will be about 1 – 1.25 hours each way), huge increase in responsibility (not that it’s a bad thing, I’m just a little intimidated!)
Overall, the main thing holding me back from switching is the long commute and I’m not going to lie – I’m a bit intimidated and nervous about taking a huge step up! I know it’s great to move upward but I guess I’ve been so used to being in a classroom setting so I’m nervous about entereing a more high power role if that makes sense.
I would love to hear your thoughts and opinions!! And if there are any program manager or manager bees out there, I’d love to hear your experiences entering your position! 🙂
Edit: on top of your experiences as a manager or program manager, I would love to hear if any of you bees out there work a typical 9-5 job or if you’re schedules are more sporatic. This new position would be a typical 9-5 for the most part but during the beginning of college quarters I would have to put in some evenings and weekends.
This topic was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by teacherbee5.
Post # 2
1 hour to 1.5 hours EACH WAY is a complete deal breaker. Its certainly not worth 8k. That is 60 hours PER MONTH of your life, 720 hours a year. Thats 30 FULL DAYS spent commuting. A freaking month in the car per year. No way.
That is sleep time, exercise time, cooking, sex, hobbies, husband/family, social life… just no no no.
Post # 3
teacherbee5 : So I’m not going to comment on the commute, because living in NYC that isn’t a crazy amount of time, but it is in a lot of other places.
I was a manager for a school in higher education for quite a few years, and based on your experience, you could totally do the new job. Program Managers are HIGHLY administrative positions, so if you’re more interested in teaching, going toward admin might not help you there, BUT it would get you closer to higher ed and you’d be building a great resume and relationships.
The other thing I’d note is that managing an educational program within a hospital will be a challenge with personalities at the hospital (at one point I was liaising between a program and a museum – oy), but if you can manage kids, you can manage adults within the structure.
Anyway, that’s what came to my mind! Good luck with your choice!
Post # 4
An hour commute is typical in my area, so no comment there.
I think career potential and being stimulated and challenged is of utmost importance. I couldn’t be in a place that I was bored. If I’m working 40 hours a week somewhere, I want to feel like I’m doing something. I say go for it.
Post # 5
sparklesalways : That’s a very true and valid point! I used to commute longer in my earlier years and was so used to it but having a short commute was so nice.
hintsofjoy : Thanks for sharing your experience! Hearing you say that eases my nerves a bit since you’ve been in such a role.
happyhappywife : I agree – not feeling like I was stimulated has been making my days drag incredibly long. I live in WA state so I’ve noticed people either have incredibly short commutes because they live right in the area or they have long commutes going to another city. Everything is a bit spread out!
Post # 6
teacherbee5 : Yeah, I won’t pretend I wouldn’t prefer a 10 minute commute, haha, but I find it fulfilling to make a bit of a sacrifice for the sake of being excited to go into work. It’s tricky to balance work/life but if it makes work seem a little less like work… I’ll do it.
Best of luck to you!
Post # 7
- Wedding: August 2018 - Banquet Hall/Conference Center
A little unrelated – If you do take it, be prepared to do some research into the pre-med process and into the minds of pre-med students in general. From the pre-med students I’ve met in college and grad school, they tend to be really really obsessed/driven/college-focused, and sometimes so are their families. Not to say other students aren’t, but it would help you to do some research on the med school process in general to learn the kind of stress these students are often put under/put on themselves to get into med school. It’s a very, very, very competitive process (not to mention long).
Otherwise, sounds like a great opportunity! Maybe brush up on your biology and talk with some pre-med students at your current school, or spend some hours browsing studentdoctor.net.
Post # 8
- Wedding: June 2015 - Malibou Lake Mountain Club
sparklesalways : not sure where you live but the travel is common here. BUT, the opportunity sounds great. New skills, new population. And you wont ponder about “what ifs” if you didnt take it. Maybe youd learn a new deal of things from these pre-med students that can be useful as a professor
Post # 9
I would not sign up for that commute if it could be at all avoided.
Darling Husband and I currently live 1.5h apart during the week, paying for a whole second apartment, because that’s how strongly opposed I am to a commute of that distance.
If it’s a public transit commute where you can relax and read a book, that might be somewhat different. But a driving commute, no way.
Post # 10
Honestly the commute is the red flag to me. All ofthe rest of it sounds great!! Is there a way that you would be able to relocate within the nest 6-12 months? So you could get settled at the new job and then mve closer. Because that commute long term is going to be a real killer.
Post # 11
teacherbee5 : I would do it! But I’m in DC so any commute under an hour is a luxury. My commute now is 45 minutes and my last job was a little over an hour. I’d much rather move up in my career and be challenged than in a boring job.
Post # 12
that is a HUGE amount of time to be on the road!!! Can you move? I have to say, I would either move or wait until something closer came around. 8k is not even that much after taxes and gas expenses! In addition, the longer you are in the car, the higher you chance of getting into an accident.
Post # 13
I could never ever commute that long. I’d keep my job and look for a similar one nearby. Just not worth it to me unless I could work from home 2-3 days a week
Post # 14
Thanks for the input everyone!! I truly appreciated the honesty. I just wanted to give a quick update! I wrestled back and forth with my decision but ultimately decided to accept the new position with the longer commute. We have a pretty good transportation system here so I would probably commute by car on Monday – Wednesday and then take public transit Thursday and Friday. (Does anyone else have strange traffic patterns in their state? Here in WA I’ve noticed traffic is worse at the end of the week). There’s possible opportunities for telecommuting in the future so that could ease up on it too.
Ultimately, the opportunity to advance in my career and the pay increase was what swayed me. 8,000 extra a year may not seem like alot to some, but for me that’s an extra 300-500 dollars a month which my Fiance and I could surely use with future wedding and house stuff!