What are your thoughts on the work place death gap?

posted 11 months ago in The Lounge
Post # 2
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Bumble Beekeeper

hartless :  I have never heard that statistic, but I would be interested to know what fields these men are in. If it’s primarily in male-dominated, physically dangerous industries then that’s not so much a gender issue as a workplace safety issue. 

Post # 3
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Bee Keeper
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Possible reasons for that

– men typically work more dangerous jobs, factory roles, construction, police, fire brigade etc and I would assume those industries make up the majority of workplace fatalities

– men typically don’t discuss emotions as much as women, they downplay stress, don’t visit the doctor and this is probably a large contributing factor to things like heart attacks

– men work longer, therefore the period of time is longer and chance of something happening is greater

 

 

One huge thing I have a problem with in the UK specifically is middle aged women complaining that their pension age will rise even though it is still 2 years earlier than men.  That is absolute discrimination and considering women out live men it is completely illogical.  Nothing pisses me off more than people using feminism and equality when it suits them and going silent when it doesn’t 

Post # 4
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Men tend to work higher risk jobs (ie fishermen, garbage men, construction) than women.

Women tend to work lower risk jobs.

I’m sure that accounts for majority of the gender death discrepancy. 

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
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hartless :  I think the pressure to do those jobs is financial, if you are unskilled you will earn more labouring for example or working in the logistics side of a manufacturing company than working in a shop.  I’ve seen it on the bee so regularly, even in supposedly “equal” relationships there is an expectation for the man to earn more and provide for /treat his partner in a way that just isn’t expected of woman.  

Post # 7
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Worker bee

This gap is actually closing as more women get into these feilds. 

Curious, did your conversation about the wage gap change direction due to the defensiveness of a man? From what you described my guess is that there was a thoughful discussion about the wage gap happening and a man came along and directed the conversation to death at work to minimize women’s stuggle for equal pay. 

Post # 8
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Helper bee

I think saying women are unwilling to do these jobs is unfair. I think many women would want jobs in male dominated fields like law enforcement and construction, but feel discriminated against or can’t get their foot in the door because they are women. 

Post # 11
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Busy bee

I think there is a third variable here…Which would likely be the type of work.  Men are more likely to be in trades or physical labour work than women are.  This is likely the cause of that, not the gender.

Post # 12
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Busy bee

wonderwedding :  I disagree…In North America at least.  Theres been a large push to bring minority groups into these workplaces (females, natives, african americans…).  And theyre more likely to get jobs in these positions now.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee

wonderwedding :  that’s a stretch. Women generally don’t want those types of jobs bc they are physically demanding and dangerous, and, based on actual anthropological and biological science, women generally do not have the physical strength to do them, so it is an expected outcome for women to not gravitate towards those occupations.

My relative works as a project manager in a major painting company. They are required to employ women on the sandblasting team (very physically demanding job with lead exposure that few ppl want) bc of govt grants they get. They would literally hand the job to any woman who showed up bc of this requirement but none apply. It has nothing to do with them not being wanted or discriminated against. 

Post # 15
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Bumble Beekeeper

hartless :   I have certainly heard partial explanations of the gender pay gap to include that women choose to work in lower paying/more vocational roles and many argue that this is an unfair “excuse” as women feel pressured to take those roles out of expectation.

Not to get off topic but that’s not what the wage gap is about. It’s about a man and a woman doing the same job and the woman being paid less for the same work. Of course there are many women who choose lower paying work that allows them more time to handle family commitments and unpaid labor at home but that’s a whole different ball of wax. The wage gap is about all else being equal except the penis makes a bigger check. 

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