Post # 47
Wanted to try to correct something I brought up…about whether moissanite could be called a “gemstone”/FTC, etc. Just want to clarify that as far as I understand, that definition was only for advertising purposes. NOT that it wasn’t a gemstone, and otherwise, just had to specify synthetic gemstone commercially. Finally, the concept of being engaged, and perhaps having a ring as a symbol, is personal. I wouldn’t tread on someone’s choices when it is harmless, because what if that becomes a slippery slope? Where will the judgement lead or when does the need to be right end? At the least, it’s called “tolerance”.
Post # 48
@joya_aspera: You are not contesting any scientific claims. You seem to disagree with a respected gemmologyst on whether or not current faceted SiC can be called a synthetic moissanite gemstone. This is what we are arguing over, isn’t it?
Post # 49
@chitown23: With you on that.
Post # 50
@MunsterCat: not exactly.
There are two articles being discussed in this thread.
One refers to natural and synthetic SiC being morphologically similar. Regarding the latter, the authors are referring to a different substance than what C&C makes, and if you don’t find the example I posted helpful, I suggest you simply look up “synthetic silicon carbide” to become familiar with what that phrase generally refers to.
The second article talks about a “synthetic gemstone.” This is a slight misnomer because a “synthetic gemstone” implies a corresponding “natural gemstone,” but there are no natural moissanite growths that would qualify as “gemstones.” However, it’s still technically ok, or maybe a bit borderline but not worth throwing a fuss over, to refer to it as “synthetic gemstone” because the legal definitions are really meant more to prevent the consumer from being misled to believing that something is natural when it’s synthetic. The problem is when the “synthetic” part is dropped: “gem” and “gemstone” are not accurate. And, to be most accurate, it would best be called a jewel.
Post # 51
Really? I’m just going to go ahead and post her exact words here that I consider really rude (as it would be construed by any other moissy owner I can think of):
“Equating moissinite to an actual gemstone esp a valuable sapphire is ludicrous. sheesh. Enjoy your moissy for what it is, a beautiful sim but the moissy jewel is simply a man made product. Better than a cz but nowhere close to a valuable gemstone“
“I totally get it that those who have sims want to believe its more than it is. Its human nature.”
“Moissanite is a beautul diamond sim. Great bling for the buck but trying to equate it to a valuable gemstone, natural or synthetic is ludicrous and plain inaccurate.”
According to these quotes, I must only own a blingy invaluable hunk of jewel. I must also have only decided on it because I truly wanted a diamond look-alike (thus the diamond sim statement). And I must be trying to tell myself that my moissanite is “more than it is” because it’s human nature to try to talk up the things that we own that are basically nothing more than crap.
In what world would somebody who owns moissanite not be offended by these quotes? And in what world was it not rude to say the vast majority of those things?
Post # 52
@Kat: you said: “Idk what these ladies FI’s spent on their ring, but my moissanite ring was just less than 5k. In what world is that valueless?”
Noone said your ring is valueless, not at all. Clearly you’re offended and that is not my intent at all. I was simply trying to correct misinformation about moissanite. I meant nothing personal to you truely. Kat, I’ve seen your ring and it really is beautiful, gorgeous setting for sure. A 3ct moissanite goes for about $800. However, a 3 carat high quality round brilliant ethically sourced diamond on blue nile is $105,000 for the diamond alone! Add $4,100+ for a beautiful setting like yours and its $109,000 for a similar appearing ring!
Sounds like you got a bargain by buying a moissanite jewel. Clearly you’re happy with it! Who cares what anyone else thinks?
@sweetpotata: @chitown23: Thanks girls, I didn’t think so either. I was simply correcting misinformation. These threads always deteriorate. I personally don’t care what anyone wears for an engagement ring, cz, moissanite, diamond or other gemstone or even a rubber band! A ring is just a symbol! Too much misinformation gets posted about moissanite round here.
Post # 54
@joya_aspera: Gemstone is a cut and polished piece of mineral. Moissanite is a naturally occuring mineral (in many crystalline structures) albeit rare and in minute sizes. Currently used in jewellery synthetic moissanite is a 6HSiC, same as natural one described in the first article. Variances exist in natural (that can be nearcolourless too) and synthetic moissanite based on growth conditions. Just because there is no natural moissanite gemstone does not mean there is no synthetic moissanite gemstone.
Picture that you have posted indeed shows synthetic SiC but different polytype, grown under different conditions (most likely through Acheson process) and not of gemstone quality. SiC crystals that are used in jewellery are single crystals, grown under different conditions and are of gemstone quality.
Post # 55
@gemgirl6: I don’t think you were rude in this thread but sometimes you can be deliberalety passive-aggressive and then use “I only try to correct misinformation on moissanite” shield . And that is sad!
Like in this thread: http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/picture-of-my-new-moissanite-ring
Post # 56
EDIT: I actually think I want to stay out of this one!!!!
I think they are really beautiful, sparkly, durable and an excellent bang for your buck!! 🙂 They are also conflict free.. which I think is a really amazing quality to have. I totally understand why people would choose them based on that alone! 🙂
Post # 57
@MunsterCat: I read that thread few days ago and I don’t think gemgirl is being passive-aggressive. She simply stated what everyone will normally conclude a person must be financially well off if they drive a Mercedes or wear Rolex or have a sizable gemstone-like ring on their finger. It’s not a bad thing that gemgirl mentioned it, because in real world that’s how people will think. In fact to wear a piece of jewelry like that, the owner is asking for attention. Even the OP from that thread felt bad that she was at McDonald’s where her ring picture was taken. So the OP knows there is certain “expectation” from society.
Post # 58
@chitown23: Mods considered it “snarky and baiting”. And I agree.
Post # 59
Excuse my french but JEEBUS CHRIST, if you are happy with your moissanite then just ignore her and let it go. Who cares what anyone else thinks? The fact that some people with them are so defensive just adds cache to the notion that people with moissanites are trying to pass them off as diamonds. A moissanite is not a diamond, it is a lab created stone that is much less expensive, accept and embrace it for what it is and move on!
Post # 60
Out of boredom, I’ll jump in here. Today’s Moissanite that is found in jewelry is not a diamond simulant. It doesn’t even look like a diamond IMO. It’s a man made version of the stones that were found from the meteorite. I don’t think one is better than the other, but…
some Moissy bees get way too defensive about their stones. Like diamond owners suck because their stones don’t sparkle the same way. Well, if your stone is made, in a lab, specifically to be super sparkly than yeah they’re not gonna look the same. The stones are enhanced. Most jewelry is. You think blue topaz comes from a mine? Nope, it’s ugly brown colored but they heat treat it to look like that. Aquamarine as well. Rubies? Often injected with DYE a.k.a fissure filling. Stones get zapped, waxed, layered, etc… but what makes white diamonds special (not the teal blue, red, or black ones often found at commercial jewelry retailers, they are irradiated) is that they come out of the ground like that, and are simply cut and polished to enhance their beauty. That’s why good quality ones are so expensive. Most of them are crap and it’s rare to find good ones. In a Moissanite lab you’re more likely to find better quality stones.
Moissanites are beautiful so why not just be happy that your Moissanite is a Moissanite?