Post # 1
A friend of mine just called to say that she is in trouble (teaches high school). It was the last 10 minutes of class and this student of hers just got back in the classroom. He took his seat and he proceeded to be faced away from her and talking while she was talking instead of turned around in his seat and paying attention. She asked him to turn around in his seat and pay attention. Instead, he disregarded this and said something under his breath that caused the class to laugh and be more of a disruption. She ended up saying “if you’re going to be a smartass, you need to say it out loud.” Several of the kids heard this and laughed, except the student she was referring to (of course).
She just received an email that she is to meet with an administrator and the principal tomorrow. She was already told by an administrator to apologize to the student tomorrow.
What do you think should happen?
Post # 4
I’m just disgusted by how disrespectful students are. It’s like they can’t be disciplined. This kid is not paying attention and disrupting the class, she says smartass which is really the weakest swear out there, and now she has to apologize to the kid? That’s not going to help this kid learn responsibility – now he knows that he can act however he wants and no one can do anything about it.
I remember when I went to school, students who didn’t pay attention were sent to the hallway or given detention. Now kids talk on their cell phones in class! Yikes.
Post # 5
What grade does she teach? If it was like 4th then action should be taken IMO… But if its like 9th or above then nothing!!!
Post # 6
@candief: High school, 9th grade
Post # 7
If it’s middle or high school, I think she should apologize and figure out a different way to deal with the student. If it’s elementary school, she should teach middle or high school instead!
Post # 8
There is no way I would apologize. First off, I’ve had plenty of teachers occassionally swear, and usually it was the most effective method of communicating. I think what your teacher friend did was situationally appropriate. She wasn’t threatening or vulgar, she just had a “let’s be real” moment. I bet it would do more to foster her relationship with that disruptive student than anything else.
I wouldn’t apologize.
Post # 9
double post. Wedding bee is being weird today…
Post # 10
Apologize in front of the class. All she said was “smartass,” and the kid was indeed being a smartass.
Post # 11
@fishbone: I think this could be the answer if she made a big produciton of it, focused on how she did not mean to hurt the students fragile feelings, and make him look like a complete tool in the process. Make him so embarrassed that he understands not all attention is good attention.
Post # 12
@teacheroops: As a parent, at that I age I wouldn’t be that mad if a teacher said that to my child. Elementary or early middle school, yeah I would be angry. A apology is enough IMO.
Post # 13
I don’t consider smartass to be a curse word, and the kid was being a smartass… I don’t know what it is with kids getting worse and worse with being disrespectful to teachers, and parents thinking no one should say a bad word about their perfect little angels, but if my kids ever grow up to be like that I would be super pissed off and super embarassed and probably high five the teacher for calling my kid a smartass.
Post # 14
Admin should be backing up the teacher 100% on this one. =/
Post # 15
I had quite a few teachers in high school talk to students like that and it was never a big deal. This wasn’t that long ago.
I don’t see a big deal at all. The kid was being a smartass. It’s not like he, at 14/15, has never heard the word “smartass” before.
Post # 16
I think she should apologize to the student (was not ok for her to stoop to the level of a child) but to also speak with the parents and inform then that their child’s behavior is unacceptable.