Post # 1
I am looking at getting my forever ring next year. I have tried on several with Fiance and we both decided we liked the look of a smaller diamond -just over half a carat on my small fingers rather than anything bigger, and in a simple band. As a result, I have been looking at diamonds ideal cut only, F+ colour and VVS1+ clarity.
However, after lots of trawling through boards, it seems like lots of people don’t bother with such high specs. Now I am certainly no snob, and while we have the budget to buy these specs, if it’s not really necessary then I would rather not waste the money.
So bees, if you were picking out a diamond, what would be your absolute minimum carat, clarity, colour and cut standards? Which one would would be your priority?
Post # 2
I think I read somewhere cut is the most important because the better the cut the better the sparkle but i’ll stand corrected on that if i’m wrong.
I didn’t get a choice in my ring because my husband picked it without me
Post # 3
londonchick: I think you’re right with the cut. My Fiance is going to pick out my forever ring next year himself as it’s important to him, but I can’t help looking and he is open to all the help he can get as he wants to make sure he gets something I really love forever. He proposed with my mums engagement ring, which is verrrry 80’s while in Europe since all our money went on the trip. When we came back we quickly picked up a ring at the pawn shop for about $600, but while I love it, he sees it as a reflection of himself and wants to get me something a bit bigger and something which is a deliberate purchase, not a quick “yeah that’ll do”. I’m more practical than him in that regard lol.
Post # 4
This is all very personal but after trawling Pricescope (highly recommended) and seeing a few diamonds in store, I have decided that cut is king, and that I would consider stones in the G – J range for colour as long as they faced up nice and white.
My minimum specs would be: SI1 (eye – clean), J colour, GIA/HRD triple Ex or AGS triple 0.
Pre Pricescope it would probably have been VVS2 and G colour. My e-ring is a 2.02 carat modern round brilliant VS2 GIA EX J colour that faces up very white. Viewing the stone in the setting, a GIA trained jeweller/ dealer guessed it was an F – possibly G.
I really recommend seeing some certified stones with different specs in real life and a ton of images on Pricescope to find out your own preferences because there is no right spec but there will be a right spec for you.
Post # 5
What type of cut are you interested in? It may be best to prioritize certain Cs over others depending on the shape of the diamond. With step cuts, for example, clarity should be a high priority. Round brilliants, on the other hand, hide inclusions better than some other stones and sometimes you can get away with an SI1 stone. Also, how color sensitive are you? Fancy cuts like cushions and radiants retain color more than other stones, so you might want to prioritize color more. There are websites that tell you the minimum grades you should be looking for to get the most bang for your buck.
When I was selecting a diamond, I knew that I wanted to get as large a stone as possible that was still high quality. I have a 1.2 carat cushion, and it’s an H color, which still shows up white. Inclusions drive me nuts, however, so I was not willing to go down to a SI1 or SI2. My stone is a VS2, and I cannot see any inclusions. The cut is very good. I thought the stone was beautiful, so I didn’t see the need to go up to an excellent cut.
Post # 6
Drizzle: Thanks for your response. I will definitely have a look at that website! I have spent a while looking at different jewelry shops, but I don’t trust their lighting! To be honest, until you are getting to the very low grade diamonds, I can’t see a difference. There was a custom jeweler I went to though which had a diamond with all very high quality specs (no inclusions, d colour I think, perfect cut) and there was a remarkable difference to the others I had looked at, it was absolutely stunning! (not the price though, $10,000!) unfortunately, it seems everything I have looked at has the same quality of specs across the board so I’m not sure which one is making the difference if that makes sense.
Ls413: I really like radiant cuts, but Fiance has his heart set on buying a classic round solitaire for me, which I like too so I’m happy with 🙂 I don’t think I’m very colour sensitive at all, but I think I’d be inclined to notice inclusions as I can tell when my current ring is dirty and it bugs me.
I have read a fair bit on the different C’s, but I don’t have many real life applications as I’m fairly young (23) and not many of my friends have engagement/diamond rings and neither does anyone in our families that I am close enough to to ask these sorts of questions 🙂
Post # 7
Cut and symmetry are king with rounds and the rest of the C’s are your tolerance and priorities. Definitely keep viewing stones in the stores (make an appointment and have them ship stones to the store) and trust your salesperson. I know you don’t trust the lighting in the store but nice jewelers will allow you to walk outside to see the glory of the stone in a natural lighting. Some people like the diamond to be ‘mind clean’- IF, FL,VVS1, VVS2 but some could care less.
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Post # 8
Darling Husband got my ering from blue nile and therefore hadn’t seen the stone before he received it. It is .92 si1 excellent cut g colour round. I think all the matters with clarity is that the stone is eye clean. Mine sure is. It’s gorgeous! But then i haven’t seen another si1 and don’t know if they’re all eye clean?
Good luck with your forever ring!!!! 🙂
Post # 9
I would probably go to a G and maaaaybe an H if it meant going up in size. But definitely VS2 and excellent cut. The general consensus seems to be that cut is the most important C but I still wouldn’t compromise of clarity.
Post # 10
my personal minimum requirements…
Cut is king! AGS000 (Triple ideal – cut for ideal light performance)
…after the cut is ideal my ideal color/clarity range is H, I and VS2 area.
With an ideal cut stone, the color is less noticible. My diamond is extremely white face up and there is a barely noticible difference only in certain lighting against my shared prong wb which has f/g a cut above stones.
My stone’s specs are 1.01ct AGS000 I VS2
Post # 11
My most important spec by far was color. After that, cut. Carat and clarity were much less important to me. My Fiance also got my ring from Blue Nile, so no ability to see the stone first but we both are VERY happy with the choice.
ETA: my only real “minimum” was that I wanted it to be F color at least. Other than that, I really didn’t have any “minimums” for the other Cs.
Post # 12
nessdawwg: My minimum standard would be that it would have to sparkle a whole lot. So, among the four C’s, cut is my first priority.
My second priority is color.
Fourth, carat weight.
Post # 13
- Wedding: A very pretty church.
nessdawwg: My first standard for any stone is that I like how it looks (not all diamonds with the same specs grab you the same way).
Post # 14
- Wedding: November 2015 - City, State
nessdawwg: This is a really great/helpful idea for a thread!
My sister is diamond obsessed and she’s told me…
Clarity: As low as SI1
Carat: 1.0+ personally
Color: As low as J
Post # 15
nessdawwg: My preference based on priority would be
1. Cut…Excellent/ Ideal
2. Carat size…1 carat or more
3. Color…As low as a J
4. Clarity…SI2 or higher
An excellent cut diamond will reflect light wonderfully, make it appear bigger, and even if the color is lower the excellent cut balances it out somehow. I’m also ok with some visible “flaws” I think it gives the diamond “character”. I’d rather have an excellent cut .80 carat (because it will look pretty close to 1 carat) than a 1.5 carat that’s a “good cut or lower” because it will look smaller than an excellent cut 1.5 carat & what’s the point of having a higher carat diamond that appears smaller lol. I can immediately spot poorly cut diamonds on here…they appear smaller than the carat weight the bee says it is…You ever notice a Bee has a 1 carat on a size 5 finger and it appears larger & then you see a 1.5 carat on another Bee with a size 5 finger and it looks small…yeah poor cut.