What would it take to impeach a president?

posted 3 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 2
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

Impeachment is just filing charges  – think of it like an indictment in a criminal case.  It takes a majority of the House to file for impeachment.  The Senate then acts as a court and tries the POTUS on the charges.  Two-thirds of the Senate must vote for impeachment.  This is why Clinton and Jackson were impeached but not removed from office – they didn’t get the Senate votes to convict.

Post # 3
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2015

It’s hilarious to me that Bill was impeached for lying once about his boner. Something he never should have had to testify about to begin with. Something that in no way affected our nation…. standards are different now I guess. Sad!

Post # 4
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2015

MrsBuesleBee :   Boner bad but working with Russia to hack our election is MAGA apparently. 

Post # 5
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2014

Firstly it would take a Congress with some integrity and a collective spine, but since we are stuck with Paul Ryan, Darrell Issa, and that fool Jason Chaffetz, there’s little chance of it actually happening unless the Democrats can flip enough seats in the midterms OR unless the GOP decides that they’ve gotten everything useful out of trump and are willing to turn on their own.

Post # 6
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Buzzing Beekeeper
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Horseradish :  yes considering Chaffetz wants to drop a few more mil on *yet another* Hillary-related email investigation… my hopes are not high. Unless they’re setting him up so they can have Pres Pence? We shall see!

Post # 7
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2016

unfortuantely being stupid cant get you impeached. Trump hasnt done anything substantial to even be considered. He’s lied a lot and has said a lot of degrading things, but that doesnt fit into the category of impeachment. 

Post # 8
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: January 2017

moonbeams :  apparently a blowjob from a white house intern. 

What it would take to impeach this “president” I have no idea. Civil war?

Post # 9
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: January 2017

Kslim13 :  it should fit into the “not qualified to run gor president” though cause assholes should be allowed to represent great nations. 

Post # 10
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2016

ana2017 :  i do think there should be criteria for being allowed to run for office, i mean didnt rosie o donnell run as an independent once… smh. 

but we are also in an era were arnold schwarzenegger ran california for quite a few years, and while i dont live in cali. They seemed to come out of it in one piece. 

 

Post # 11
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

Keep in mind that Clinton wasn’t impeached for the affair or for just lying – he was charged with perjury (lying under oath). Trump may be lying right and left, but lying on its own isn’t an actual crime… unfortunately, in this case.

 

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee

moonbeams :  Don’t forget he filed as a candidate for reelection on the day of his inauguration to muddy the legal waters and exploit protections. I wonder if the technical status of a candidate would have any bearing on an impeachment?

Post # 13
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2017

Like a PP said, impeachment is just the bringing of charges, not the removing from office. Metaphorically, you’d need a body before bringing murder charges and you’d need a smoking gun to actually convict the murderer beyond a reasonable doubt., For “impeachment,” you’d need a crime having been committed, evidence that Trump knew about the crime and was complicit, and then the elected officials (including a huge number of trump’s own party) to agree that all this is legitimate and undeniable in order to remove him from office.

The most likely scenario of impeachment would be if it were to emerge that Trump himself had knowingly conspired with Russian intelligence to influence the election results by way of the promulgation of fake news stories, hacking of the DNC, etc, and in return, Russia would get sweetheart deals, the lifting of sanctions, etc. THAT would be an impeachable offense. If this did occur, it’s unlikely that Trump would have allowed himself to be privvy to the discussions that took place. He would have been kept out of the room, basically, so he’d maintain plausible deniability. Trump would have had to be VERY stupid to leave himself open to something this serious.

Reporters and Congress would have to be actively searching for some sort of smoking gun. Republican members of Congress aren’t interested in pursuing this, because they know opening any sort of investigation would tarnish the chances of accomplishing what they think might get accomplished: defunding planned parenthood, tax reform, rollback of obamacare, etc. They’d be the ones who’d really have to put the time and effort into investigating, so Congress is definitely unlikely to turn anything up. I’m sure there are dozens of Reporters out there investigating these possibilities. However, the Trump administration has been very effective at delegitimizing the press. Any information that is negative to the Administration they claim is faked. This type of head-buried-in-the-sand has been stunningly effective, so the administration has insulated themselves quite well against any evidence that may emerge that he should be impeached. 

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