- 2 years ago
“What would you do?”
I would mind my business.
As for not being friends for someone who breaks the law- not all illegals break the law per se. If they came here as children, it is illegal for them to stay. BUT- they can not get a US passport, as they are not US citizens, they can not get a passport from their country because they are not in their country, and it is illegal to cross the US border without a passport. So I would not judge someone for failure to preform physically impossible feats. (In addition to the fact that if this is the only country they’ve ever known, it doesn’t make a hell of alot of sense to send them to what is essentially a foreign country.)
Well in texas they just catch and release them anyway so not only would there be no point it would overall be a really dumb experience
mrstodd2bee : Those are some pretty sensationalized pieces. He’s not “cracking down” on immigration. He’s referring to asylum seekers, and he’s advising potential border jumpers to familiarize themselves with Canadian rules. Immigration is alive and well in Canada and always will be.
daisy123 : Ah. But we’re not talking about legal immigration, but rather illegal immigrants. Big difference. There are around 33 million legal immigrants in the USA. And around 11 million illegal immigrants. The USA grants legal immigration to about 1 million people each year.
Compare that to Canada at about 300,000.
So many scenarios paint illegal immigration as a hardworking family in the neighborhood that just wants a better life- and sometimes that is the case. But not always. I’ll tell you a personal story that does affect my thinking on the subject.
In 1987 we moved to San Diego and lived in a middle class suburb at the base of a small mountain. I was 10 and played with many of the kids in the neighborhood. I quickly learned that the hills weren’t safe to go exploring in- tales of vicious dogs and rumors of marijuana growers and secrets “camps” with men living in the hills.
Well one night some of the men in one of the camps got into a drunken fight and stabbed each other. One of the men ran down from the hills and into our house covered in blood seeking assistance for his injuries. My parents called 911 and the paramedics took the man and quickly law enforcement swarmed the hills and raided the marijuana farm and rounded up the immigrants who were being housed in ramshackle encampments on the hillside.
Obviously this was a long time ago- marijuana is now legal in CA, and there is a greater emphasis on human trafficking- which in hindsight is clearly what was happening with the men up in the hills. This was a stopover after they had been moved across the boarder. My parents never called the authorities until the night the man ran into their house bloodied. But if I were an adult in the same circumstances today I sure as shit would have called and reported the situation. I have no doubt that many of those poor men on the hillside were seeking a better life. But if people are being trafficked and there is criminal activity going on I wouldn’t hesitate.
Now that being said, if it was a nice family living down the street just minding their own business and living peacefully- I would never call and repot a situation like that. I think it’s a complicated issue and people forget that there are dangerous elements to it that put not only the public, but the immigrants themselves at risk.
karen12 : supporting documentation might be an issue. Many of these people were born at home, not in hospitals, in nations where record-keeping systems were very primitive at the time. City Halls may have been destroyed in natural disasters or civil wars. So, like everything else in this process, this might not be as easy for everyone as it sounds. El Salvador is not going to give you a passport till you can prove you were born in El Salvador.
mrstodd2bee : Good luck to Trudeau with that. /s
As far as i knew, most deportations we hear of are for people charged with actual crimes or people who overstayed and fought deportation in court and lost for whatever reason and those who lied to get in (false information for VISA). I remember this case of a Sikh man hiding out in a temple after he lost his court appeal and basically the cops took YEARS to drum up the legal authority to remove him from his sanctuary. This was in the early 2000s.
That being said, having done some brief reading…we’ve gotten a lot less sympathetic.
Between January 2014 and Sept. 6, 2017, Canada sent 249 people to 11 countries for which the government had suspended or deferred deportations because of dangers to civilians.
That includes 134 people to Iraq, 62 to the Democratic Republic of Congo and 43 to Afghanistan, the data shows.
And nearly half of Canadians (who responded to this particular poll anyway) want to deport those who cross over illegally from the USA.
Disgusting. I absolutely would not. People are entitled assholes. They should be thanking their lucky stars that they were born here and not somewhere else, and be helping others to have the same gifts they’ve been given. And I do, I volunteer with an immigration rights law firm.
@karen12 its still practiced in texas