Post # 32
Im going to email and find out! the jewler is a family jewler so were getting everything at his cost. my whole ring is coming it at 8800. for the stone and halo at 2 pointers. I never thought to ask him about the certification. I just trusted him. I will deff ask and see if we can see an excellent cut stone and drop the color down a little. Only thng is that im very sensitive to color hopefully i dont see any yellow in a G!
Post # 33
@inwaiting: Definitely save the $1,000 and go with the better cut and color. Even if you can tell the difference between the 1.5 and 1.4, once it’s set it’s doubtful you’d be able to tell any difference at all.
Post # 34
Ok, please, please, please do not take this as being rude. However, I highly suggest against working with family. I’m sorry, but does it really make sense that this family member would lose out on $6,000+? If those stones are what your family member claims, they would literally be losing out on more than $6,000. That just doesn’t make sense.
I know you said you trusted him, so you did not ask for certification. Let me say that if he really did care about you getting the best you could, he would NEVER offer you a “good” cut stone. He should be offering only excellent, possibly very good. But certainly not good or lower. Furthermore, he sould have very willingly shown you the certifications. The fact that he didn’t makes me very nervous that these stones are not GIA graded. Otherwise, he should be boasting to you that they are GIA stones. I guarantee he is knowledgable about the fact that GIA has the best reputation. It sounds like he is taking advantage of you.
Here’s what I recommend. Run, don’t walk, over to pricescope.com. Go into the “Rocky Talky” forum and ask your questions there. They are FAR FAR more knowledgable about diamonds than the people on this site. This is a wedding website, that is a diamond website. They will probably ask you the same questions and say many of the same things I did. They will also probably ask you about some data on the stone including the crown angle, pavilion angle, depth, and table to have you enter it into this tool called the HCA Calculator:
This tool is designed to tell you how well your diamond performs (how “sparkly” it is, loosely put). I can tell you right now, though. A good cut diamond is NOT a very well cut diamond. He shouldn’t even be showing you these stones. He should know better. I would not trust him.
Post # 35
I was trying to think of a polite way of saying what @PaisleyMedic
just posted. A trustworthy jeweler would never recommend a ‘good’ cut stone, regardless of what certification it has. Cut really is that important, and he should have told you that right upfront. That’s enough to throw up a red flag for me. Unfortunately, these ‘family’ jewelers (including friends, friends of friends, friends of family, etc) stories don’t often turn out well. Ask yourself, if there’s a problem with the ring, or if the diamond specs aren’t what he said they are, would you be comfortable treating him like any other vendor? Would you be okay with asking for your money back, and potentially dealing with a fallout?
I realize that it seems you’re getting an amazing deal, but I still highly recommend doing your homework and shop around. Remember, you’re handing over a significant amount of money for an item that’s deceptively very complicated, and that most consumers don’t really understand past the basic 4Cs
I second going to Pricescope, they really are diamond experts there. Ask your jeweler for the crown and pavilion angles, and table and depth percentages. A reputable jeweler (or stone that has been certified) will be able to provide this information. Create a thread with this information, and they’ll help you from there.
I apologize if these aren’t the posts you were hoping to read, but there are far too many stories exactly like yours that take a turn for the worst, and I’d hate for you to be one of them. Best of luck!
Post # 36
i didnt take this in a rude way at all 🙂 he has done all my sister in laws rings and they have GIA certifications thats why i never figured to ask to see them. i just assumed that its also GIA. all the rings my sister in laws have are gorgous and maybe thats why i trust them. They sparkle a lot as well! im going to see him again soon so i’ll ask him to have a copy of the certification ! Thanks for your help though!
Post # 37
Thank you i just replied to the post above yours! but like i was saying. That wasnt a stone he was showing us to begin with. That was what another client wanted to see. He just showed us and we likes the stone. but like i said once he showed us our stones especially the 1.4 you can tell how much sparlier it was. and deffenitly because of the better cut in the 1.4. I guess i do feel bad asking him to show me other ones. as this is probably the 15th stone hes showed us. lol we started this at the begining of September 😛
Post # 38