(Closed) White or Black Tuxedo Jacket??

posted 7 years ago in Grooms/men
Post # 3
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Buzzing bee

Personally I always think the classic black tux with black bow tie looks timeless and perfect. 

I do like the look of the white jacket, but I don’t know if it is one of those trendy things that will look dated 10 years from now (like the baby blue tux my father got married in?) 

Post # 5
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Helper bee

@jyonke2811:  

 

The white dinner jacket (please note that it is never pure white, but always winter white or a shade of ivory as natural wool is never pure white) is a classic and accepted option for black tie events if the following conditions are met:

a) The event takes place between May and September. The white dinner jacket is a summer outfit. If you live and/or celebrate in a tropical climate you may ignore this. Likewise, if you live/celebrate in Australia, South Africa, etc. stick to what is considered summer there.

b) The event takes place after 1800 hours (6 o’clock in the evening). Cravatte noire or black tie is an evening dress code. The daytime equivalent would be a stroller.

c) The event or a large part of it, takes place outside. Granted, I consider this point to not be mandatory in certain regions. Having spent time in Georgia, I simply cannot imagine being outside at 7 in the evening in July, wtih 35 degrees Celsius or more and 90 percent humidity.

Please rest assured that a classic white dinner jacket will never look dated. It’s been around for decades, and if you don’t believe me watch “Sabrina” with Humphrey Bogart and Audrey Hepburn 🙂

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VWxRqlYkm8Q/S2kOJy9DwII/AAAAAAAAAFI/64zrNRCQXW4/s400/Audrey.hepburn.+sabrina,+white+dress.jpg

or here: http://www.vincasa.com/casabla2.jpg (not “Sabrina” but “Casablanca”)

It is worn with black wool trousers with a galon stripe down the side of the legs, white braces to hold up the trousers (black may be visible through the jacket, hence I recommend white), a formal shirt with a turn-down collar, a black silk bow tie (hand tied is always best), and a black silk cummerbund. The best collar is a shawl collar. The gentleman can brighten this up with a flower or a pocket kerchief.

A waistcoat is not really appropriate, because it would be uncomfortable in the heat. The white dinner jacket is a nod to the weather, and thus it is slightly less formal. It is assumed that a softer shirt (when this dress code was devised, formal shirts were so starched that they felt like a board) and a light-coloured jacket would be much more comfortable in the heat. According to my husband who owns dinner suits, a tailcoat and a white dinner jacket this is true. I have to take his word for it as I’ve never tried it personally.

P.S. For a while (1930s) there was also this look, which was inspired by military uniforms:

http://thegrumpyowl.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dinner-jacket.jpg

It is called a Spencer jacket, and a gentleman must have the right build for it (i.e., tall and very slim, with broad shoulders) otherwise it looks very strange.

Post # 6
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2013

One of my favorite lines from Sabrina (with Audrey Hepburn and Bogie, not Harrison Ford)

“I wish all these young men would stop wearing white jackets in the evening.  They look like barbers!”

Post # 7
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Helper bee

@Tangled:  

True, that line does appear. Of course, for these gentlemen the only proper evening outfit was really white tie. You can also see that in the film. The older gentlemen wear white tie, Linus (played by Bogart) is dressed in a black dinner suit to denote that he is a bit of a bluenose, while his brother and many of the younger men are in white dinner jackets.

I like the look for more casual summer events, and I don’t think that a gentleman in a white dinner jacket looks like a barber. Many military services around the world still have summer mess dress with white jackets. In my opinion, the 1930s and 1940s had some of the most elegant fashions, and men’s clothing experts often refer to that era as the classic era of style.

Of course, the look has to be done right, and the clothing needs to be made of quality materials (no polyester!!!) and properly tailored.

Post # 8
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2013

@Persephone:  I like white dinner jackets. I also like crotchety old men and Audrey Hepburn movies.

There’s also a great 30 Rock quote when Jack sees alternate universe Jack, who is wearing a tuxedo. He says, “Why are you in a tux?” and alternate universe Jack says, “It’s after 5 o’clock.  What are we? Farmers?”

Post # 9
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Helper bee

@Tangled:  

Where is the “like” button :-)? I love Audrey Hepburn films, and Bogart is great. He is a crotchety old man, right?

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2013

@Persephone:  Definitely!

But enough thread jacking! White dinner jackets are plenty fetching. Also, it is your wedding and you can have the men wear whatever you want. They can wear red if you’re feeling particularly playboy mansion. 

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