(Closed) Who are you voting for, Obama or Romney?

posted 9 years ago in Legal
  • poll: Who are you voting for?

    Obama

    Romney

    Undecided

    I'm not voting.

  • Post # 137
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: May 2012

    @HisIrishPrincess:  

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    @eimajleigh:  

    I can’t vote, but gee I’d believe the Daily Show sooner than I’d believe Fox News.

    Post # 138
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

    @sarahbabs:  I was already about to +1 you even before I saw the rest of your post agreeing with me. But I agree, I have to stop opening these threads as well, it just raises my blood pressure.

    Post # 139
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    Busy bee

    @ChemistryBride:  This is definitely true. I had my ID card before my drivers license. And my SO has had a California Identification Card since he was about 5. 

    Post # 140
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

    @ChemistryBride:  In person voter fraud basically doesn’t exist, and the complaints about having to get ID are really about the fact that multiple things go into getting an ID if you don’t already have one (you need to get a social security card or birth certificate, etc. all of which cost time and money). In a practical sense, the only reason to have stricter voter id laws is to disproportionately keep minorities, the elderly and lower socioeconomic class people from being able to vote. 

    Post # 141
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: October 2011

    Is denouncing your citizenship and moving to another country an opition?

    Thats about how thrilled I am with American Policies and Politics at the moment.

    Post # 142
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2012

    i could freakin careless at this point. i am SOOOOOO over all of this.

    Post # 144
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    Busy Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    @Neetch:  actually, that isn’t true.  I have worked elections for many many years and have seen voter fraud with my two eyes and they did influence the results of elections.

    Post # 146
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: May 2012

    @Eva Peron:  it’s not that much better elsewhere, and it’s not a good idea to renounce your US citizenship. someone like me, a foreigner living in the US, would have more freedom in the US than you would.

    Post # 147
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2013

    @tksjewelry:  i saw it happen here in MA during our last major election (when scott brown took office)… someone i knew on facebook was literally going to different towns and voting as different people and then documenting the journey on FB in a bid to get brown elected. he was also coordinaing voter fraud trips forhis friends to these towns. disgusting. 

    Post # 148
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2012

    Obama.  He can’t be blamed for not doing everything he promised when Mitt’s party decided that defeating Obama was more important than actually governing, so they voted NO on everything Obama supported, even if it was originally a republican idea.

    In order for there every to be a viable 3rd party (which I think is a great idea), what we need is a huge overhaul.  We need tight campaign finance laws, for Citizens United to be overruled, for super PACs to go away, for there to be complete transparency.  We also (and this will NEVER happen) need to redistrict pretty much all congressional districts.  They are drawn in ways beneficial either to democrats or republicans, so representatives have a strong D or R majority in their districts.  So they swing far to the extreme of their party when running in their districts, and any compromise with the other party is seen as weakness (this is true more with republicans).  This makes actually doing anything once elected pretty difficult.  If districts weren’t drawn to allow one party such a big majority, then representatives would be interested in actually getting things done rather than pleasing a base.  There’s a reason why the congressional approval rating is around 30%, but they keep getting reelected.  People like THEIR representatives, just not congress as a whole.

    Post # 150
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: November 2012

    @Eva Peron:  i feel the same way.  Granted where I hold dual isn’t much better..

     

    im not voting. my personal opinion is that neither will do a good job.  i didnt vote in 04 for the same reason and i dont regret not contributing back then.

    Post # 151
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2012

    @Neetch:  But having a social security card and/or birth certificate are documents that one must have in order to work, pay taxes, etc, which are things that most people (including minorities and lower socioeconomic classes) do. Even if you are not working, you need those type of documents to apply for welfare, food stamps, unemployment, etc. And you have to pay for those documents what, once in your life, unless you continually lose it? And I’m not actually sure if you pay for the original birth certificate since I believe everyone gets an original one before they leave the hospital when they are born. I don’t know about SS card because I don’t know off hand what age you get that. But regardless, all citizens who are collecting any type of legal income should have those documents, so I just don’t think that argument stands up to scrutiny.

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