- 9 years ago
- Wedding: October 2012
O to the BAMA!
O to the BAMA!
Just wanted to step in on the voter fraud/ ID debate for a second…..I dont understand why someone WOULDNT have an ID of some kind??? I couldnt tell you how many times I reach for my ID throughout the day. Its odd to me that someone can say that needing an ID to vote is a way of keeping minorities and the poor from voting. Dont they NEED an ID anyways??
@tksjewelry: If you have seen so much voter fraud (and I’m not challenging what you’re saying factually) do you have any sense of why there are so few (if any) recorded cases of in-person voter fraud in the past 10 years? I would think that if it was easily observable then it would have been, well, observed? Again, not challenging what you’re saying, just confused as to why it hasn’t been caught.
Also agree with you on the Free ID’s etc. I think in PA or TX for example you have these enormous rural counties (because of the layout of the state) with only one DMV in the entire county, and so people who do not have transportation (e.g. senior citizens especially) were having serious issues even getting themselves there to get their ID’s. The stories I read about the difficulties in obtaining the ID (and doing it in time for the election if you had to, for example, order a birth certificate or a SS card) were very real.
@sarahbabs: +1 to everything you said, as usual. But I would also like to add how ironic it is to me that when there’s a thread about a woman being bullied for being fat, almost everyone is in agreement that a woman’s (person’s) body is their own business to do what they want, but when it comes to abortion it’s all of a sudden a different story.
@Neetch: And nobody knows about the most recent cases of actual voter fraud in FL. Romney’s campaign paid 600k to a company that was shredding Democratic voter registrations, abd made up false Republican voter registrations They actually caught the guy running that company. He’s done similar things in Colorado and other states too. The GOP has paid his company millions.
@Neetch: But everyone needs it at some point. To cash a check (especially in many lower income areas where people might not have a checking account and use check cashing places), at pharmacies, to buy certain things like alcohol and cigarettes, to drive, at doctors offices (sometimes), to apply for credit….the list goes on. So to me, the point is that you should have one anways…I was born and raised in PA which is one of the states that wanted to enact having an ID to vote starting with this election. It only makes sense….I dont see it as keeping anyone out of the polls, since you really should have an ID anyways.
And, if youre not responsible enough to have an ID, maybe youre not responsible enough to vote.
@mrssoontobeh: I thnk part of the problem is an ID of “some kind” isn’t accepted. The new laws require very specific types of ID’s and do not allow others.
There are large numbers of senior citizens who don’t have ID’s (they let their DL’s expire and live in nursing homes so have no reason to get an ID). Students are driving less, and relying on college ID’s more (at least that’s my understanding) and college ID’s aren’t accepted. Veterens rely heavily on vet ID’s (again, from my understanding) but those aren’t accepted either.
Sarah Silverman did a HILARIOUS commercial on the effect of the Voter ID laws. It’s left-leaning, no doubt, but it does explain things well. Highly recommended.
@mrssoontobeh: i’m not poor (i dont think voluntary wedding-induced poverty counts)… but i rarely use my ID. i work in a professional job and interact with various sectors for work and various retailers/restaurants for socialization, and still rarely get asked.
I’m still going with Obama…
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