(Closed) Who here “DOES NOT” believe in Birth Control?

posted 11 years ago in Babies
Post # 167
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@MrsRoyal:  I agree with your last two paragraphs.

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@imalittlebirdie:  I had to Google this. I just clicked on the first thing that came up. Here’s the link and something it said:

The Bible is virtually silent on the subject of birth control. Not because it’s a modern invention; it isn’t. …

The Church itself says it draws its ‘sex only for procreation’ thinking from stoic philosophers of the second century. (That alone should give a serious Bible student pause.) Birth control wasn’t officially banned until Pope Gregory IX made it so in the 13th century.

http://www.examiner.com/signs-of-the-times-in-phoenix/is-birth-control-a-sin-part-2

Post # 168
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

Haha this is my morning homework now… it’s actually pretty interesting to research! But of course everyone is writing from their own viewpoint.

 

Another site:

http://www.biblestudy.org/question/birth-control.html

“Therefore, birth control is proper with God if doing so out of what is best for the family and each mate’s capability as long as it is based on love. … There is nothing in the Bible that speaks against using condoms. Condoms are just another way of not getting pregnant just like abstaining from sex when a woman is in her fertile period. “

Post # 169
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

I’ve read a lot of justifications for why NFP is OK but condoms/birth control aren’t, and I have to say I still don’t really get it. I am Catholic, and while I may not always follow some of the teachings, I can understand the reasoning behind many, and I even can see why they would be against hormonal birth control– while it works by preventing ovulation, it also makes it much more likely that IF you ovulated, and IF the egg was fertilized, it wouldn’t implant because the uterine lining is very thin on the pill. So OK, I get that. BUT, with a condom vs NFP, I just don’t understand. 

Post # 170
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

I am definitely PRO BC. You can’t leave EVERYTHING up to god all the time. I suffer from a serious illness and I take medication for it, I wouldn’t leave the treatment of my illness completely up to god, I have an illness that could have serious physical consequences should I not take medication so I take it. I tend to get migraines as fallout from my illness, should I get a headache, I take a pill. I don’t want to get pregnant and although I am unable to take hormonal birthcontrol due to my migraines (opting instead for condoms), I can see why people would take it. 

That said, I agree with checking out the charting/family planning method that PPs have suggested. It sounds like it could be a good option for you guys! I’d seriously look into it. 

Post # 171
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@foodnerd81:  It took me a long time to understand this.  One thing someone said to me made me really rethink it, because for years I thought it was just ridiculous.

When you use a pill or condoms or an IUD, you are confident that you are not going to get pregnant because you are using artificial means to control it.  You go in with the idea that you won’t get pregnant and you are actively closing that off.  As effective as NFP is, you don’t go in with that same idea.  The understanding is that you can be really careful, but it still has a failure rate and it takes active participation.  The intention is to be open to God’s will.

Because sex is not just procreative, it’s important to be open to procreation, even though that sounds totally contradictory.  As far as Catholicism is concerned, actively blocking procreation with artificial means creates a barrier between you and your partner by denying one of the purposes of sex.  If sex was only for procreation, charting would only be used by Catholics to tell us the few days of the month we were allowed to have sex, but instead we’re expected to abstain if we feel we aren’t ready for pregnancy.  Which really makes a lot of sense when you consider the religious significance of abstinence and fasting; there’s a spiritual element to it.

I think I read that argument a million times before it actually made sense to me, and it finally made sense to me at a time in my life where I did not consider myself to be Catholic.

That’s why I personally prefer charting, though I guess that’s easy for me to say since I need to take birth control for hormonal regulation for another year at least.

Post # 172
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Sugar bee

@HappierKate:  “The understanding is that you can be really careful, but it still has a failure rate and it takes active participation.”

I just wanted to point out that all birth control has a failure rate. While I do agree that you should be prepared for the consequences of having sex I don’t believe you have to abstain if you’re not ready for pregnacy. Obviously that debate, though, is for another thread.

Post # 173
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2007

I’m a Christian and I believe in God’s will but I think it’s best to use birth control instead of having an uncontrollable number of children if you can’t afford to raise them well.  I’ve seen so many cases of women having one child after another yet they are living on food stamps and welfare.  I met a mother whose baby couldn’t tolerate regular formula so she should’ve switched the baby to another formula but couldn’t even afford the $20 to buy a new formula. I personally think it’s irresponsible to keep having children if you can’t afford them.  I believe if God really wants me to have more children, He has enough power to get me pregnant despite taking birth control.

Post # 174
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: February 2012

I know it’s not the same, but I don’t use birth control pills. Every time I go to the doctor, no matter what it’s for, they go out of their way to make me feel like I am the only woman on the planet who doesn’t use them. I just figure natural is better, even though periods suck.

Post # 175
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@Aure:  Oh I know, and I agree.  I think it’s a matter of the attitude difference; intentions are different.  You should always be prepared for pregnancy if you have sex no matter what, but there is generally a difference in attitude for most people when they are using artificial birth control and when they are using NFP; my partner and I use a condom and we’re pretty sure that unless “something goes wrong” I won’t get pregnant.  But that attitude that if it fails, it “fails” and that “something went wrong” is the difference.  Obviously if you go into NFP and think of it not preventing pregnancy as it “failing” or as “something going wrong” you get into the same pattern and pregnancy becomes an undesirable consequence of sex and not part of the bonding.  Generally, if you do NFP for religious reasons, you don’t get into the pattern of thinking it went wrong, just that it was God’s will.  If the birth control fails it is definitely possible to say “Well that was God’s will,” and my mom says that about me all the time, but that’s a process you usually come to after you get pregnant, not at the time that you are actually having sex.

I know it’s a really subtle difference, but I think that’s the difference that finally made me understand that point of view.  I’m totally all for people using birth control if they want to.  For me, not using birth control and using NFP instead is a spiritual thing and not a “Anyone who uses it will burn in hell and it is outright sinful for anyone to use it” thing.

Post # 176
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

I’m with you on this one 🙂

Post # 177
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

I come from a Christian background (Dad’s a pastor, I went to Bible college, etc…).  I wanted to go on BC when I was in college for medical reasons, but I didn’t want my body to get used to it and then meet my husband and have him be against it.  So, I waited.  Once I met my DH, I talked with him about it early on.  I began BC 2 months into our engagement.  We prayed about it and decided to continue the BC for contraceptive purposes.  

Around the 1 year mark, I plan to stop BC.  We are looking at TTC around the 2 year mark.  This will give my body a year to re-adjust after BC.  I’ve known several people who got pregnant quickly after stopping BC and had miscarriage issues.  This was one of the reasons I was hesitant to be on it.  So for the second year, we will chart to not get pregnant.  Our prayer is that by the 2 year mark, my body will be back to normal!  I’m guessing it will be hard for me to deal with my periods off of BC (severe cramps, ovarian cysts… Before BC, I would typically miss class, work, church, social activities, etc. due to the severity of my period.)… But we’ll see how it goes! 🙂

Post # 178
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

@flamingred:  “If God wants me to have a baby, my birth control will fail.” Love it! Right there with you. 

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