Was I wrong here?

posted 1 month ago in The Lounge
Post # 32
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364 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2019

I’ll be honest, if some random stranger approached me and told me not just to turn off the camera but to delete my footage, I would be taken aback.  I think I would feel attacked, even if they didn’t intend it, because strangers aren’t typically confrontational.  I think your response would have been softer if they had said “Pardon me, I really guard my privacy and don’t want to be on film.  Would you mind turning off your camera?”

Post # 34
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4963 posts
Honey bee

loz24 :  Oh ok. I tend to go whats legal as thats my training *not a lawyer though.  Lol. 

Post # 35
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224 posts
Helper bee

why dont you just naturally enjoy the view and look at professinal videos/pictures later… I mean isn’t that the entire point of travelling ? to enjoy it through your eyes.. why travel and spend money to look through a screen you can do at home.

I am positive your iphone video didn’t do it any justice..

 

Post # 36
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

I’ve confronted people in public spaces to delete a photo BUT that’s because they were of my daughter. Once in the Louvre a woman literally bent down and aimed a camera in my daughter’s face (she was 10 months in her stroller). I immediately told her to delete it. The second incident was a person smiling with my daughter on the subway who then pulled out her phone and took a photo of her, I asked her to please stop. Both of these incidents were clearly targetted to her vs catching her in the background. Why people would think that’s okay is beyond me!

The last incident was we were out as a family and this guy was having his friend film him ranting about some extreme religious views. As he walked by us the guy with the camera started filming people around him – this happened as we were walking by/leaving so my husband out his palm out to block the shot of us and the guy filming lost it saying he could film whoever he wanted in a public space and we had no right to interfere with his film. We just kept walking and ignored him.

For the record I don’t think you were in the wrong here but my experiences have made me more aware and sensitive to being filmed – particularly in regards to my daughter as I feel quite protective of having her photos online etc. I’m also very careful out in public not to take or post photos that have other children’s faces (unless I know them and have permission). I think some people are also much more protective of privacy and are wary of photos that often end up all over social media.

Hopefully despite it all it’s been a good trip for you!

Post # 38
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462 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2018

I notice a couple of things here. On the first page or so of this post, when anyone (pretty diplomatically, actually) suggested that you may have had a hand in making this a bad situation, you got pretty defensive. You also mentioned that people have told you before that you speak aggressively. So you weren’t really open to hearing that you might’ve done anything wrong in spite of the title of this post. 

Secondly, you went to a European country that I have to assume you’ve not been to before, given how much you want to take pictures and videos of it. And when [again, I assume] a local wants you to delete a picture, you come back with “this is a public place and I can do what I want!” Okay, but it’s another country of which you’re not a citizen; maybe you don’t know all of the local laws or customs. And I know upon reading this your immediate reaction will be “It’s a tourist place! Everyone has their camera! Rabble, rabble, rabble!” Yes, I understand that. My point is that your immediate response is “I can do what I want,” a very American perspective. (I am American too.) You seem to view all situations from YOUR experiences and perspectives and have trouble when asked to see things from others’ perspectives, even in their own countries. You’ve done that on this post and in a foreign country. THAT right there is your big problem. 

Post # 39
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2018

Oh, and you wanted to tell this dude IN HIS OWN COUNTRY OF WHICH YOU’RE A GUEST that he should “stay home” if he doesn’t like tourists?! Good lord, girl. 

Post # 41
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Busy bee

Im surprised by responses. Since when is it ok to film other people? I also freak out when others film me. 

Post # 44
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Busy bee

socalgirl1689 :  I can understand your frustration. I once got chewed out by a dad for photographing his kids. What actually happened was I was photographing Sunset Cliffs in San Diego. I intentionally wandered out by myself to omit any people in my shot. His kids ran into frame, and he yelled at me, and told me not to photograph his children. I turned around and said, “Dude, I don’t even like kids. The last thing I want is your children in my shot.” He glared at me, yelled for his kids to keep away from me, so it didn’t escalate beyond that. Sometimes it’s impossible not to get people in frame. I think the biker was probably not fond of tourists, and he took the opportunity to call you out. I probably would have acted like I deleted it, and yelled back, “It’s erased!” You’re not obligated to show him. 

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