(Closed) Who won the presidential debate?

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Sugar bee
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@ Sunshine09   My only thought was that I really hate listening to people argue over politics LOL.

I give props to anyone who could sit through all that. What a mess. I don’t like either candidate and that did not change after last night. 

 

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Bumble bee
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I won because I didn’t watch it. I am a lot saner today with lower blood pressure than most of my friends. 

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Busy bee
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Hillary Clinton is the clear winner.

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Honey Beekeeper

Is this even a question? Trump imploded. 

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Buzzing Beekeeper
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Hillary by a long shot. Its not even a question. She was composed, prepared, strong and effective. Trump was unhinged and reactionary and often just full of shit and illogical. No news there.

I was really shocked he said he was smart for avoiding paying federal taxes. What a dick.

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Honey bee
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@ Sunshine09     Gary Johnson.

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Honey bee
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Gary Johnson, all the way! 

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
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I’m 15 minutes in and already Hillary is making Trump look mentally unstable and just ignorant. He can’t even answer the questions and just keeps talking in circles. I’m not a Hillary fan but she is clearly the better choice.

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Bumble bee

Clinton. But I won’t say Trump didn’t land some jabs.

Clinton did a better job attempting to stay on topic but she fell apart a bit in the beginning when Trump started challenging her on trade and the economy, even though I felt that she could have had some solid footing to push back. She knew he could possibly be aggressive and once he came after her, she was pushed back on her heals and started talking about her husband’s policies… which hold no bearing to what HER plan is.

So point to Trump.

But then, Clinton baited him and called him out on his own business failings. And boy did he take the bait. every. single. time. He suddenly was caught back on his heals but Trump, instead of being good at pivoting, doubles down on his inaccuracies and began to ramble incoherently. And Clinton took huge huge advantage of that.

So point to Clinton.

ETA: Trump also really, REALLY hung himself on his answer to his pushing for Obama’s birth certificate and Clinton was smart to just let him hang himself there.

They both need to get back to policy. Clinton made her points about his character and his business failings and all he can do is divert the conversation to where she has fallen short, but offers no solutions. Clinton also needs to start pointing out where his polcies fall short and start hammering him on specifics on WHY he thinks free trade agreements like NAFTA are a failure and what solutions he would offer. Trumps a one-trick pony on this as he does not like to talk about what he wants to do in detail and that will show if she goes for him on those specifics.

Trump’s clear weakness is policy and temperment. She hit him hard on temperment last night. Now it’s time to go full throttle on policy.

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Bumble bee
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I’m pretty sure most people would answer, “The candidate that I already supported.” Unless that candidate is Gary Johnson, of course.

Although I assume most Johnson supporters are currently curled up in the fetal position awaiting the inevitable destruction of Earth by the sun so have no time to worry about frivolous things like presidential debates.

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Buzzing Beekeeper
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It was less exciting than I thought it would be.  Lester Holt was clearly biased in favor of Hillary which irked the shit outta me.

I thought Trump got in a few good lines and made a couple of good points.  She didn’t “make a mistake” regarding the illegal email server, she “made the choice” to commit an illegal action and put national security at risk.  Not forgivable.  She is not trustworthy.  Never was, never will be.

Also, Trump was calm and serious in his demeanor but Hillary came across as sleepy, smug, and I think she’s not used to wearing false eyelashes because she couldn’t stop blinking – it was distracting.  As was her Santa Claus pantsuit.

However, as far as who “won” the debate, I would call it a draw.

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