Whooping cough & daycare WWYD

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Post # 16
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Buzzing Beekeeper
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lula0508 :  well all the daycares I have been to or looked at require proof of vaccination (so a vaccination report that is signed off by the pediatrician).  I would assume any licensed place requires vaccination records unless the child medically cannot receive vaccinations.  But as far as I know, I have never seen any daycare policies (I have read a lot of handbooks) that would require keeping a child home simply because a sibling is sick.  So I don’t think I would fault the daycare for that.  But I would probably have also pulled my child out (at that age), at least for a week or two to be safe.  I believe if there are certain virus or disease reports they are required to do some type of deep clean.  One time one kid at our center had some type of bacteria/virus and the workers were required to stay most of the evening doing special cleanings.

Post # 17
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Sugar Beekeeper
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You are not overreacting at all! Whooping Cough is a deadly disease! And even when it’s not fatal there can be long lasting effects. My husband has scar tissue in his lungs from when he had whooping cough as a kid (parents didn’t update his booster on time). He had to use an asthma inhaler when he played sports in high school because of it.

I would be researching other daycares as this one does not seem to be prioritizing the health of the children in thier care.

Post # 19
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lula0508 :  do you know what the parents are doing?  Is it possible that the sick kid is at home and maybe the younger sibling is staying and grandma’s?  Or vice versa.  

Post # 21
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lula0508 :  Yes, I would have pulled my kid out probably for at least a few weeks as well being that little.  Was the older one vaccinated?  I know sometimes you can get these things regardless of vaccination.  Our nurse line usually returns a call within an hour, so maybe worth a call back.  I would definitely want their input on what you should do or watch for, and the daycare situation.  I’m not sure how long that one stays contagious.

Post # 22
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Helper bee
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I definitely get your frustration!  Hope your baby is ok.

At our daycare, only the sibling who is sick is required to stay home.  And from experience (not with a disease as serious as whooping cough, just regular fevers, stomach bug, etc), most parents with 2 kids at our daycare prefer to continue sending the healthy kid to school to further protect that child from the germs at home, and to let the parent home with the sick kid focus on comforting that child.  Obviously they would still be in the same house in the evenings, but that doesn’t always mean they will both get sick. 

Having said that, if you are able to keep your not-yet-fully-vaccinated child home in cases like this, it’s obviously going to help minimize risk for the child, which I’m sure we can all support! 

I’m not sure if this is true at all, but I thought I remembered that when a kid has a confirmed case of pertussis, their immediate family is also put on the medicine (antibiotics?) as a precaution and to hopefully prevent their infection?? Maybe I made that up, but I thought I heard that before..

Post # 23
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lula0508 :  I would contact your state health department and whatever agency provides licensing for daycares as well to report the situation present at the daycare.  Not quarantining an exposed child (the sibling) seems to be ridiculously negligent. Shame on the daycare and the parents of the child. 

Has the daycare been cleaned by professionals to prevent the spread? This whole situation sounds like a nightmare…

Post # 24
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Busy bee
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lula0508 :  I don’t think this has been said yet, but I apologize if it has. All centers should have a policy about sickness and when children aren’t allowed to attend. I have worked in several centers and am also a kindergarten teacher, and I have never heard of a policy that would require someone to stay home if their sibling is sick. Literally just this morning two different kiddos told me about their brother or sister vomiting at home. Gross, but it is what it is. I also don’t think the teacher being unsure about vaccination means a whole lot; when I worked in centers that was the business of the office and I wouldn’t have known vaccination records as a teacher. Sanitizing surfaces also only does so much, so even if they clean regularly there is still plenty of opportunity for germs to spread. 

You have every right to do what you think is best for your baby and stay at home or find a new one, but it’s hard for me to see people bashing a center for things that are largely out of their control. Kids are walking viruses and in places where they eat, play, breathe, etc. others are bound to get sick from time to time even if every protocol is followed.

Post # 25
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Buzzing Beekeeper
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I’m pretty sure most daycare centers do not require siblings to stay home if another is sick. Schools don’t require it either.

I would definitely talk to your pediatrician about it, but I don’t really think the daycare is doing anything wrong. I wouldn’t really expect a teacher to know anything about vaccination schedules either. I do think it’s a bit odd that your infant is in with kids that are all over a year old though, is it a montessori type place?

Post # 26
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Helper bee
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I will preface this all by saying that I totally understand being scared, especially since he’s your first and since he’s so teeny. I hope he’s ok and doesn’t end up with whooping cough!

I would ask the daycare to clarify their policy on vaccinations, if they don’t require them, then I would look elsewhere. However, keep in mind that even if they have a policy that requires vaccinations, people can get exemptions for religious or other reasons – so nothing is a guarantee. (For the record, I work in public health and think EVERYONE should be vaccinated.)

That being said, I don’t know of any daycare that has a rule that you have to keep home well siblings of sick kids. I honestly don’t think you’ll find that anywhere. You’re also quickly going to find out that whooping cough is literally everywhere at this time of year. I know it’s scary, especially with such a little one, but sadly that’s just the reality. I would be hesitant to take him to the doctor unless he really needs to go because that’ll just expose him to a ton more germs (and potentially more whooping cough). Best of luck, mama!

Post # 27
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Westwood :  I agree.  I wouldn’t fault the daycare for allowing the sibling of a sick child to attend.  I have toured lots of places and read handbooks and I don’t think you would ever find a place that requires the (non sick) sibling of a sick child to stay at home.  You won’t be able to find a place that has this rule.  

Post # 28
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Bumble bee
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lula0508 :  I would expect a call back within a couple hours and a same day appointment if I were calling with your concerns.  If they haven’t called you back, I’d call again and say, “I’d like to bring LO in, I think she NEEDS to be seen today, but I want to do so safely and in a way that prevents possible pertussis exposure to others in the waiting room.”   I would absolutely insist that she be seen today, FYI.  

Also, I’d find a new daycare.  I can understand allowing siblings in when another sibling has a garden variety cold or stomach bug.  But I would expect them to ask the family of a patient with a communicable and POTENTIALLY DEADLY TO OTHER CHILDREN illness to stay home until everyone is cleared of it. 

Reference: I’m an ER doctor with 8+ years of experience.

Post # 29
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

I’d find a new daycare. One that doesn’t endanger kids lives by allowing unvaccinated kids in. Absolutely ridiculous. 

Post # 30
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Busy bee
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Whirlwind03 :  I was thinking the same thing. I don’t think it’s an overreacction to keep the “healthy” sibling at home too for something as contagious and dangerous as whooping cough. Untill he’s been clear. My understanding is that a lot of these dangerous diseases have an incubation period so it’s not like you would know for sure the sibling is healthy right away.

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