Who's marching tomorrow morning!???

posted 3 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 76
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Bumble bee

pcosbee :  Protesting, a protected and proud tradition in a free democracy, is the first step to a call to action.

Protesting calls public attention to concerns of citizens who feel left behind by government or are speaking out for perceived or real injustice. In the case of the women’s march, many women felt that the president was a threat to basic rights to women including the right to abortion, healthcare, and basic humane treatment, in particular to his comments about “grabbing women by the pussy.”

So does the protest itself do anything? Yes and no. What it does do is it sends a signal that there is dissent in potential decisions this administration has already hinted at pursuing, including women’s access to healthcare with congress vowing to defund planned parenthood and take away programs like CHIP, medicare, medicaid and patient protections which kept healthcare costs for women reasonable, by not allowing insurance companies to make women pay more in premiums vs. men.

But now, my hope at least, is that those same protestors, who now realise they are not alone, need to act. They need to get involved in the democratic process by looking into volunteering, or donating money, or at the absolute very least, voting in midterms and remaining informed about the issues not just coming up by the federal government, but by their STATE governments. Time will tell if they do that or not, but the response was pretty strong yesterday. I am hoping it stays that way and goes well beyond protesting or meme sharing on the internet. We’ll see.

Post # 78
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Busy Beekeeper
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lifeisbeeutiful :  and we, the people, still have the right to dissent, assemble and protest. You don’t have to join in if that’s not a message you support, but no one has to sit quietly by, give him a chance, deal with it,  get over it,  or whatever else we are told to do.

Katie-Didnt :  have you seen https://swingleft.org/  ? It’s a great grassroots group for people in so-called “safe” voting districts. A lot of people don’t stay active because their precinct will go red or go blue no matter what. This concept helps those people stay interested and engaged while helping to promote progressive/liberal platforms in swing or red areas.

 

some more photos, some are mine and some are taken by others: 

 

 

 

 

 

Post # 79
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: April 2016

The Chicago march was incredible! Second highest turnout outside of DC. So glad I went. 

For those wondering what we can do next, make phone calls! 

“Make sure our voices CONTINUE to be heard!

Paul Ryan’s office is conducting a phone poll, hoping to hear overwhelming opposition to the Affordable Care Act.

Here’s how you can participate:

Call (202) 225-0600….

Press 2 to weigh in on the issue.

You’ll hear a recording about the bill to repeal it, then Press 1 to support continuing the Affordable Healthcare Act.

It takes less than 2 minutes. It was very quick- please do it.

You can also leave a message at the end if you want (& if the system will take more VMs).”

– copied from a friend of  Facebook

Post # 80
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Helper bee

Katie-Didnt :  to be clear, I am not trying to devalue the right to assemble.  I am very conflicted about these types of demonstrations. My husband and I had a long convo about it yesterday- what made, for example, the Ferguson protests successful, but not OWS? Why was the civil rights movement impactful, but not the many protests groups like PETA hold?  I fear that the anger towards Trump and the protests that have ensued are going to turn into a OWS- a platform for everyone to air grievances with little concrete plan for action.  I was watching CNN yesterday and they were interviewing people in DC about why they were marching- the answers were everything from reproductive rights to LGBT rights, to clean water in Flint and animal rights (wut?) 

 

I also wonder if large-scale protests such as these sometimes act as a pacifier-  it can almost feel like a little head pat from the man and way for people to say “see? I DID something!” without *actually* doing anything meaningful. I have to wonder if there wouldn’t have been much more actual impact and movement towards change if everyone who marched took the money they spent on signs, transportation, t-shirts, hotels, etc and donated to Planned Parenthood or the campaign of a representative in which they actually believed.

 

Like I said, I’m of two minds about it.  I’s just hate for this to turn into another “What do we want? EVERYTHING! When do we want it? NOW! How will we get there? ….uhhh someone else figure that out” type of situation, especially when the situation is so dire and the potential consequences so great. 

Post # 81
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Bumble bee

AORiver15 :  It also “scolds” for not being involved sooner.  I am an adult.  I don’t need someone to ‘scold’ me for not doing something sooner.

Post # 82
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Bumble bee

I have to say, the ladies on here have not disappointed me.  Instead, my point has been proven beautifully.  

So long as we have to agree on every point, we will never succeed in changing everything.

Post # 83
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2015

bywater :  Unfortunately the truth hurts.

Post # 84
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Bumble bee

AORiver15 :  Hope you don’t need the women that your attitude drives away from the cause.

Post # 85
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

Horseradish :  Your picture of the elderly Japanese-American woman needs to be seen around the world. Please consider sending it to CNN and other media outlets. At a time when the world is poised to repeat so many mistakes of the past, this picture is an incredibly powerful message. 

Post # 85
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2015

bywater :  The cause is equality–gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. Not supporting that cause makes it tough to also march in favor of it, doesn’t it? It’s the same with the pro-life groups–their platform is in opposition to the beliefs and positions taken by the organizers of the Womens March and it doesn’t make sense that they’d embrace them as fellow sponsors. It’s pretty clear that millions of women around the world support these causes and don’t find those truthful statements to be isolating or offensive.

Post # 87
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Bumble bee

pcosbee :  we agree then that the right to assemble should continue to be protected. I am hoping that all parties will agree there 

There will always be individuals and groups that sort of go off on weirdo tangents and lump themselves in with specific movements. I think about the Tea Party which railed against the affordable care act but groups and individuals in there were also protesting Obama being a Kenyan Muslim socialist and was taking away all your guns. Happens on both sides.

I am fine with peaceful protest; even the ones I don’t necessarily agree with the message. But as I’ve said, now it’s about moving past the protest and speaking loudly at the voting booth both for federal legislators and state legislators. And as I’ve said, time will tell if that happens. AND I too hope that people don’t pat themselves on the back for this and forget about midterms in two years and/or ignore their state legislatures. We’ll see what happens 

Post # 88
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2016

pcosbee  and anyone else looking for what to do next: I signed up for a website called https://www.volunteermatch.org. You can tell this website what causes you are interested in and find local groups that need your help. I am signing up to help teach English to families because I feel like I can really impact someone and also show my support. Denver has a refugee and immigrant community and I want to make sure they feel supported and welcomed regardless of what our president says. Who else is signing up?

Post # 89
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Busy bee

lifeisbeeutiful :  Trump doesn’t do anything respectable, so why should we respect it? Trump has the lowest approval rating of any incoming president since the 1940s. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. Not to mention others who voted third-party or write-in. The majority did NOT vote for Trump and more Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history.

The definition of feminism is the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes. It’s about equality. Stop insisting that you must be pro-abortion to be a feminist. I marched yesterday and I am pro-life. Obviously because the way I (we) see it, the baby is their own person, not merely an attachment to a woman’s body. Even if you don’t agree, you have to understand in our heart, we 100% feel that way. I didn’t feel happy during the pro-choice chanting, but I ACCEPTED it and knew what I was getting into when I chose to go. The fact that some pro-life groups were wanting to partner with organizations for the march and got rejected is DISGUSTING. And honestly leaves me really discouraged compared to how hopeful I felt prior to knowing that. 

In the mission statement for the Women’s March the first thing stated is “The rhetoric of the past election cycle has insulted, demonized, and threatened many of us – immigrants of all statuses, Muslims and those of diverse religious faiths, people who identify as LGBTQIA, Native people, Black and Brown people, people with disabilities, survivors of sexual assault.” I do not stand for any of that. THAT is why I marched. So if you think I should have been excluded and stayed home, purely because I am pro-life, you really are pretty closed-minded and intolerant/hypocritical yourself. 

For anyone who still wants to make an impact, Women’s March will be posting an action to take every 10 days for the first 100 days. https://www.womensmarch.com/100/

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