Why aren't we helping Puerto Rico?!

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Bee Keeper
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I disagree. There are 12 foundation listed on time.com website alone that are helping the people in PR, accepting donations. The U.S gov’t is helping also, but with the devastation that has also hit FL and Tx relief demand is at an all-time high.

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Busy bee

Trump is a racist prick. Impeaching him would be a great start.

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Sugar Beekeeper
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teacher-bee-in-the-sea :  well. Trump refused to sign the order to lift the Jones Act to loosen shipping regulations until yesterday. It took a lot of pressuring to get him to do that. He kept saying he didn’t want to hurt the businesses that ship. 

trump lifted it for Texas and Florida.

Obama lifted it after hurricane sandy.

it;s just Puerto Rico that Trump wouldn’t lift it for. All of that aid just sat there for days.

the only reason he did is pressure from the public, media, and members of congress. So what can you do? Pressure your member of congress. 

From CNN: 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/news/economy/jones-act-puerto-rico/index.html

McCain and Democratic Representative Nydia M. Velázquez, as well as the governor of Puerto Rico and mayor of San Juan, have urged Trump to suspend the Jones Act to get supplies to Puerto Rico faster.
President Trump has not waived the rule, though he said Wednesday that he is “thinking about” it. He noted the shipping industry opposes a waiver.
“We have a lot of shippers and a lot of people that work in the shipping industry that don’t want the Jones Act lifted,” he told reporters.

 

Heres a good explanation from PBS 

it’s just Puerto Rico that trump didn’t want to lift it for

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/jones-act-explained-waiving-means-puerto-rico/

How does the Jones Act restrict vessels entering Puerto Rico?

Under the Jones Act, any vessel can enter Puerto Rico. In fact, many foreign vessels enter Puerto Rico regularly, importing goods from countries around the world. However, transportation of goods between two U.S. ports must be carried out by a vessel that was built in the U.S. and operated primarily by Americans. This law doesn’t single out Puerto Rico — it applies to all U.S. ports, the only exception being the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Why was the Jones Act waived for Hurricane Harvey and Irma, and did it help?

Waivers for the Jones Act have been issued in the past, such as during Superstorm Sandy in 2012, which went largely unnoticed by the public. And waivers were issued recently during Hurricane Harvey and Irma.

Hurricane Harvey took a toll on the oil supply system of the Texas Gulf coast. Because Texas is a hub for nationwide petroleum distribution, the damage from Harvey led to limited fuel supplies, adding stress to recovery and evacuation efforts in Texas and possibly Florida. In light of this, Trump issued a temporary Jones Act waiver that allowed foreign vessels to transport petroleum products between the Gulf coast and eastern seaboard. Puerto Rico was also included in that waiver, the Associated Press reported, but it expired before Maria made landfall.

On the day the waiver was set to expire, gCaptain, a website for maritime professionals, reported that “no foreign tankers were booked” through the waiver. However, Department of Homeland Security’s David Lapan later said in an email to NewsHour that to the best of their knowledge, eight vessels reported that they made use of the Jones Act waiver for both Harvey and Irma combined. It’s hard to tell yet if that number is accurate.

What will Jones Act waiver mean for the delivery of goods to people in Puerto Rico?

Even as vessels arrive, though, the island faces additional challenges in getting the goods on shore. U.S. shipping company Crowley, whose vessels already comply with Jones Act regulations and regularly deliver cargo to Puerto Rico, reported that they deployed additional vessels to hasten the delivery of goods. They also dispatched 50 relief trucks to deliver supplies around the island, because on-island distribution is at the heart of the supply shortage.

CNN reported that goods entering Puerto Rico are piling up at the ports, and the island’s damaged infrastructure is to blame. Fuel shortages, damaged roads and debris are preventing truckers from showing up to work, so ships carrying supplies are waiting to enter the port of San Juan, and more are on standby in the U.S. These ships are waiting to deliver goods to people in need. Yennifer Alvarez, spokeswoman for Puerto Rico’s governor, said as many as 9,500 containers of supplies are sitting at the port of San Juan.

The Maritime Labor Allowance said in a statement that, “there are currently 15 U.S.-flag ships and U.S.-flag oceangoing tug/barge combinations regularly serving Puerto Rico. These vessels alone are now bringing in more supplies than can be distributed ashore,” adding that they support a Jones Act waiver in emergencies where there is a shortage of vessels.

 

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Helper bee
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BalletParker :  The entire situation is heart breaking! I’ve donated money but from Canada, not too sure what else to do 😪

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Busy bee
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teacher-bee-in-the-sea :  

Why aren’t you helping Puerto Rico?

Because racist Mr.Douche is in the oval office. 

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Bumble bee
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A huge Navy Hospital ship left from my area yesterday. Would have been great if they could have left sooner. But the hurricane was still out in the ocean. We were getting some rain from it Tuesday. 

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Busy bee
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I say this as someone with family living in San Juan…

A decade ago when Katrina hit, Kanye said, “George Bush doesn’t care about black people” and people were shocked, appalled, and some grimly laughed at Kanye who seemed nuts but maybe had a point.

Today, if a celeb or talking head said, “Donald Trump doesn’t care about Hispanic people” Would anyone be surprised? Outraged and shout back, “you don’t know what’s in his heart!” ? No. He told us from the get go he doesn’t see Mexicans as anything but criminals and illegal laborers, why would he see Puerto Ricans as citizens?

Aid was sent at the last minute because he doesn’t care to spend money on brown people.

Regarding PP, lol. No, USNS Comfort was not delayed because of *rain*. That fleet was built for warzones and stronger stuff than the outer bands of a weakening hurricane. 

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Sugar Beekeeper
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gialovesshoes41 :  it’s horrifying, the mayor of their capital city said it would be close to genocide if help didn’t come soon. Raising awareness just by talking about it and posting about it is helpful, as social pressure is all we have to get trump to do anything. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/29/san-juan-mayor-criticizes-us-officials-for-calling-puerto-rico-relief-effort-good-news

 

 

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BalletParker :  more horrifying is that trumps press conference was all about how much praise the mayor threw at him. 

But as I said in the thread the other day on Puerto Rico the USA has a long standard of treating Puerto Rico as less than so to be fair to Trump (as much as I despise him) it is hardly a new trump only thing.

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Busy bee
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I’m not from the US but I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s because your president is a racist douche who’s knowledge of Puerto Rico is that it’s surrounded by water…big water…ocean water…

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j_jaye :  sure, but we got more aid to Haiti and faster under Obama than Trump did to Puerto Rico.

This morning he blamed Puerto Ricans for not working hard enough to help themselves. So yes, he brings the contempt and disregard to new levels. 

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