Why can't I find a loose stone?!?! (Amora Gem)

posted 4 years ago in Rings
Post # 2
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: June 2016

No matter what new retailer you buy them from they all source from BTD.

From what I’ve been told, all the new rounds will be a D, E, or F because they have perfected their machines.  A G or H will be extremely rare.  The only ones left are the ones for resale or the larger sizes that haven’t sold from earlier batches.

Also, if you haven’t already, make sure you sign up for their e-mail notification service.  You can put in your desires for a size and color then it will e-mail you as soon as it is posted.

As for other sites, the only other one I can think of is DiamondBistro.  They also occassionally pop up on eBay.

  • This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by  hisqueentobe.
Post # 3
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Helper bee

I was also going to say diamond bistro. Some times you can buy a whole ring and then just pull the stone out

Post # 4
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: September 2018

I was there too and I just gave up. I’ve been checking the website, blog and message boards obsessively for over two months. I checked all the resale sites (ebay, craigslist, i do now i dont, diamond bistro and exboyfriend jewelry) DAILY. I’m signed to to get the emails on both my work and personal email so that there’s no way I would miss it. After his update a couple weeks ago, I asked Les when he planned to have more ~1ct stones in g or h. He said they would be restocked around the 11th. All last week I checked obsessively jus in case it happened early.

That night he posted a blog update that they had done the restock. I never got an email to either account and never saw any of the new stones for sale. I posted a comment on the blog expressing my disappointment and it was deleted. That was the final straw for me. I love everything I’ve seen about the Amora, but I got the call from Shane Co. that my custom order is in and I’m not waiting indefinitely to buy something from a company that chooses to cover up negative experiences rather than communicating. 

Unfortunately I think demand is going to be way greater than supply for a while and you’ll probably only get a stone if you’re hypervigilant and have the time to spend checking a ton. I’m sorry you’re going through the same shit I did. I know at this point you probably just want to scream ‘shut up and take my money!!’

 

Post # 5
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Blushing bee

When our company sold Amora Gems we had about a dozen graded by Imagem Inc which uses robotic grading (and therefore eliminates human error and bias).  We found the color and clarity varied from the certs in a number of instances.  Not a big deal if its an F instead of a D because they both face up colorless, but personally I think it would stink to pay a large premium for a D, IF stone (only to find out it wasn’t D and/or IF).  Therefore I’d try to buy the lowest color and clarity possible.   If you love the stone when you receive it, great, you just saved a lot of money.

Post # 6
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Blushing bee

mstopknot:  “I posted a comment on the blog expressing my disappointment and it was deleted.” 

Unfortunately thats become pretty common precedure over there.  The BTD discussion forum used to be the most active jewelry discussion forum on the net.  However banning members for critical opinions and deleting threads / posts scared everybody off.  Its too bad because it used to be a great forum. 

 

Post # 7
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Worker bee

I had wanted an Amora Gem since the minute BTD announced them. After years of waiting, I finally gave up. First there was the patent issue, then the issues with the original gem (not the Ultra they’re currently selling), then even when they ramped up their production of round ultras the size/specs I wanted were never available (approx 1.5 ct,  G color, IF to VS2 in clarity). On the rare chance a stone with the specs I was looking for appeared it was always gone by the time I was able to make the purchase (sometimes only a few minutes after the stone was listed). I’ve also been reading other people’s experience and it seems like BTD is quick to delete any negative feedback posted about the gem. That makes me skeptical about how great it really is.

My solution: Forever One moissanite. I saved $1k (purchased from a very reputable seller on eBay) and I LOVE it. Sure, I might have loved an Amora Gem more. But I never had the chance to see one in person to compare. Ignorance is bliss, I guess. I really had my heart set on an Amora Gem, but now that I have a beautiful moissy (which was ZERO hassle to purchase) I’m never looking back. I’ve already got another ring and some earrings in mind! 

Maybe one day I’ll give the Amora Gem another chance. But until then, I’m thrilled with my affordable, no hassle moissy! 

Post # 8
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: September 2018

vanasme:  I’m with you. Tons of positive reviews mean nothing to me now that I know that they are suppressing bad reviews. I would still love to see one in person, and I may buy one in the future if I don’t have to work very hard to do it. But for now, I’m going to explore alternatives. I guess being ‘1,000,000x more rare than diamond’ has its downfalls for customers. 

Post # 9
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2019

Sigh just buy the F1.  Name differences should be moot at this point I heard they’re all same material anyway.  

Post # 10
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

michaelc:  Btw what happened to your vendor board?

Post # 12
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

What about a Forever 1 hearts and arrows? They look just as nice as an Amora In My Humble Opinion.

Post # 14
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: September 2018

seasons120:  My boyfriend and I are also considering a diamond now. This Amora project has been my undertaking…no way would he have stalked the whole internet for months for a gemstone lol. When I expressed my frustration the other night he suggested that we look at diamond options at Shane when we go to pick up the setting. I didn’t originally consider a diamond because of the expense and because I’m proposing to him, I didn’t want to make him buy me a really expensive ring. He told me that we’ve been together for eight years and he’s been saving for a while and he’s always wanted it to be a diamond (because he’s a man and thinks that’s what an engagement ring is. I don’t think he even knew there were alternatives before I showed him in December)

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