(Closed) Why can’t people seem to let me be peacefully agnostic??

posted 8 years ago in Secular
Post # 47
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Bumble bee

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@ViaMinorViator:  I know as an atheist, I find questioning my beliefs upsetting because it feels hypocritical. I am respectful of other people believing in a god, but I often feel as though I am not afforded the same courtesy. It’s not a question of my personal feelings, it’s just a matter of basic politeness. Belief is a sticky and intensely personal thing that should be treated with mutual respect regardless of a person’s conclusion.

Post # 48
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Honey Beekeeper

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@MrsBroccoli: “they keep their religions to themselves in the same way that I don’t run around telling them there is no god.”

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@batwoman:  “Belief is a sticky and intensely personal thing that should be treated with mutual respect regardless of a person’s conclusion”


I think these are such great statements. Belief is totally personal. As long as you respect each others, you can be friends, even if you don’t believe the same thing. 🙂

Post # 51
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Honey Beekeeper

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@MrsDrRose612:  That was really well-said! So much time and energy is wasted on trying to name a “right” and a “wrong.” Life would be so much easier, not to mention more harmonious, if we focused more on “right for me” and “right for you.”

Post # 52
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

@MrsDrRose612:  when people hear that you are agnostic, they figure you are open for conversion

 

Actually if you look up agnostic, it means unsure–so you can be an agnostic atheist, an agnostic theist, or a gnostic atheist, o gnostic theist

 

Maybe you could clear it up by saying you are agnostic atheist, or spiritual (whatever fits), or something that seems more defined to them–since agnostic is just reading as a big question mark to them

 

 

Post # 53
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

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@ViaMinorViator:  it goes both ways–if christians were truly certain that their beliefs are 100% correct, they wouldnt try to antagonize and intimidate others into believe the same–they would live their lives striving to be as Christ-like as possible and hope to be an inspiration to others to change

 

You’re not an atheist, but if those around you were constantly belittling your beliefs and scoffing that god is a delusion, mocking your decision to marry in a church–I can bet you would be a little incensed! It’s all about respect

Post # 54
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: November 2012

I know exactly how you feel. My mom raised me agnostic, but I went to Catholic school for 10 years at the request of my grandmother. So, I was always respectful, but skeptical. My Dad is really religious (crazy fundamentalist Christian) and of course my Grandma and the rest of my Dad’s side are Catholic. I have been telling all of them, since I was 15 and refused to be confirmed, what I believe and none of them (except occasionally my Dad and his wife) are pushy or forceful about religion to me. My FH’s family, on the other hand, are very religious (Protestant), and up until yesterday, truly believed that he was religious too (even though after an 11-month tour in Afghanistan, he “came out” as an agnostic to them…I guess they chose to ignore that.) Well, this weekend is our engagement party that they are throwing us, and I don’t think they are going to like it when we tell them that my stepdad (a former poet laureate and all-around awesome guy) will be performing the ceremony and the only verses to be read will be from Pablo Neruda poems. I’m anticipating WWIII. So, yes, I get it.

Post # 55
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

I haven’t read the other posts. 

I’m Atheist, and my So is Agnostic.  I am *NEVER* bothered by other people about it.  I think they figure I’m a lost cause because saying you truly do NOT believe in something is pretty firm. 

For some reason though even I hear ‘Agnostic’ and think ‘they aren’t sure.’  Now, does it matter to ME if you aren’t sure…absolutely not.  No person on this Earth knows for sure.  But, I think people hear ‘on the fence’ or ‘waffling’ or ‘soul searching’ ‘not sure’ etc.  And as you know, if people perceive a window of opportunity to give an opinion they will take it.

Post # 56
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

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@ViaMinorViator:  your comments are almost laughable if they weren’t so sad.

Post # 57
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Blushing bee

People who are that pushy about their views whether it be religion or otherwise are simply not my friends, period. My SO and I are agnostic. I grew up going to a Christian school and very involved in church. Back then, most other people I was exposed to were also Christian because that was what I was surrounded by and I didn’t know anything different.

So due to my background, I get why Christian’s feel the way they feel about trying to convert other’s, but it still bothers me. I don’t feel the need to defend myself, I just don’t want to be nagged about something I have zero interest in.

I respect other’s right to their religious beliefs, but they also need to respect mine.

Any “friend” who ignored my feelings and kept hinting at adding Christian elements to my wedding would not be my friend for much longer. Luckily, the friends I have who are religious are not pushy about their beliefs.

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