Why does Meghan Markle get more negative comments?

posted 2 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 136
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2016 - Sussex, UK

Her dad admitting to staging the thing with the photographer taking pics of him looking at Meghan and Harry online in an internet cafe was just plain weird. I don’t get the purpose. Is it to say he needs the money? Plus her mum advertising a security system and planning to talk to Oprah. You can’t judge saomeone by their family (and certainly not the horrible siblings) but it would be better if they were discrete. I imagine her parents are getting travel, accomodation, outfits etc paid for so it’s low of them to be doing this.

That said I’ll be watching on the weekend. So curious about what style dress she’ll wear.

Post # 137
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

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salrynn :  Me too – I also have all the Union Jacks still out from Eurovision at the weekend.

Post # 138
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Newbee

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Twizbe :  Eurovision was… interesting this year… to say the least… xD

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EllyAnne :  Yeaaah… Very… I bet the dress will be really pretty 🙂

Post # 139
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

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salrynn :  it was heartbreaking – poor woman, she must have been terrified, but what a pro

Post # 140
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

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elderbee :  lol that is fair. & actually yes, you’re 100% correct: America, specifically, was definetly not ready for a black president lol.

Post # 141
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Bumble bee

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EllyAnne :  I read somewhere (probably daily mail) that the idea behind the staged photos with the dad was to make him look better. All the paparazzi photos were always him going to get beer, KFC etc. and purposefully to make him look bad. This was to make him look better and more appropriate 🤷‍♂️

Post # 142
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Busy bee

I have to admit I had never heard of either Suits or Meghan Markle until Prince Harry started dating her. Now I am addicted to Suits and an avid fan of Meghan. Her style and poise are both amazing, it’s like she was made for royalty! I’m in the UK and have seen very little negativity about her. I’ve seen plenty of negativity about her family alright but I think that’s just because they appear to be so awful and just using any opportunity they can to make money from her. I really admire how dignified she  remains no matter what they have thrown at her. She’s going to be a great addition to the royal family, a real breath of fresh air and I cannot wait to see the royal wedding. I’m guessing whatever style her dress is will be the leading trend for the next couple of years!

Post # 143
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Newbee
  • Wedding: September 2018

I think she’s intelligent and beautiful and perfect (obviously being a little over the top here), soooo I don’t understand what so many people could find to hate on

Post # 144
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Sugar bee

The question is not just whether Meghan and her family are good enough for Harry and his family but also whether Harry and his family are good enough for Meghan and her family.

It works both ways.

The Markles and the Windsors (but mostly the Windsors) have enough black sheep between them to scuttle a battleship. (Don’t you just love mixed metaphors.)

The Royals may be richer than many of us and more clued up about their ancestry than most of us but they aren’t any better than the rest of us. 

This doesn’t mean that I don’t wish the couple well. I do. But they are neither superior to me nor should they be a soap opera played out for my entertainment and the newpaper industries’ profits.

All this adulation ruins the Royals in the end. They get used to everyone treating them as special and no one ever telling them to get to the back of the queue and wait their turn.

Still it could be worse. King Donald, Queen Melania, Crown Prince Donald Jr and Princesses Ivanka, Kourtney, Kim, Khloe, Kendall and Kylie, for instance.

Post # 145
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Newbee
  • Wedding: October 2019

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elderbee :  I think a lot of it has to do with Prince Harry’s statement coming to Meghan’s defense and specifically mentioning racist and sexist comments she’s received, that coupled with the defensiveness in this thread when ppl mention they personally feel her race has something to do with it is off-putting.  In a class I took for graduate school about the intersection of economics, gender and race the professor stated the first day if you automatically become defensive in this class, it’s time to take a deeper look at your shadow and your own belief system-  needless to say, it was a tough but rewarding semester! Additionally, I can definitely admit that due to how entrenched racism is in U.S society (I’d argue world-wide, but that’s another story), and how as a society we are just starting to reckon with it, we are much more attuned to subversive racism at the present moment.

I’m American, and a person of color, but have lived and traveled in Europe  and can definitely say while I felt physically safer, i.e I didn’t think I’d be attacked because of how I look, I did feel an undercurrent of subtle racism in interactions with others. Small things like checking into a hotel and being asked: “your friend who is joining you, do they look like you?” Or in shops people making a concentrated effort to not touch my hand when giving change. etc., The worst was in Italy actually, one guy actually said to me, “you are pretty – your father is Italian and mother African?  Africans do not look like you.” Or in Germany, “Are you Indian?” was often the first thing I was asked when out and about. No one was burning crosses in my front yard, but constantly being asked questions like that made me aware that my ethnicity was often the most interesting thing about me to people. Little incidents like this add up, which I think is the hardest part to understand. Racism is VERY uncomfortable to discuss, and I honestly think because it’s so awful, when we don’t experience it we tend to, often inadvertently i think, dismiss it because it’s too painful and uncomfortable to think that some people experience racially charged situations on a daily basis. 

In the US, racism tends to be a bit more overt than in Europe, but it’s definitely present in Europe. Honestly, the most “racially neutral” I’ve ever been was Amsterdam. That is the difference being a person of color, you are almost always aware of your skin color. For example, a really good white friend of mine once remarked how uncomfortable she felt in an all black setting because it made her hyper-aware of how different she was than everyone else in the room. It wasn’t until I remarked LOL that’s my everyday life, that a light bulb went off for her. While the UK is diverse, especially in London, it is still a majority white country/group of countries, thus, most people of color will often be one of a few in their classes, etc.; That difference goes felt by all whether we acknowledge it or not, such as in the case of my friend. So in a family, no less such a high profile, historic and traditional family, where there is literally only one person of color ( at least openly acknowledged) that difference will be felt – whether we acknowledge it or not.  

I think from the American perspective the issues of her being older, American, a divorcee, commoner/coming from a broken home are amplified by her ethnicity, in subtle and subversive ways.  For example, some UK bees have said well if her skin was darker it would be more of an issue. I.e her lighter skin makes her more palatable- that is a subtle signifier of a racist society. 

Harry’s statement is here:

https://www.royal.uk/statement-communications-secretary-prince-harry

 

Overall, I think this thread has been really productive and also talking about issues like this truly help change the world. I’ve learned somethings and I hope others have as well- go bees!

Post # 146
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Sugar bee

My daughter’s best friend at school was half-Moroccan. My daughter didn’t realise that her friend was considered black by other people until she they were both 17. By that stage it was too late to absorb any racism. 

I’m glad that Meghan feels herself to be mixed race and can claim both black and white cultures equally as her own. She is an individual and an interesting woman in her own right.

I also suspect that because Harry has met all sorts of people from all continents, his idea of what is attractive has widened. 

We all need to meet people who are different from ourselves as well as those that are alike.

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