Post # 1
I see many women on here who have a drink or more a week and no one thinks anything of it. Yet if a woman smokes a ciggarette she has now done irrepairable damage to her child.
According to all of the research I have done. There is no known safe amount to drink while pregnant. So why do women give up everything but still have that drink to settle their nerves or whatever reason and think that is ok? I don’t see anyone jumping down someone’s throat for drinking but everyone gets up in arms about smoking. Why is that when they are both harmful. Why is one considered ok and the other not? I am not looking for a flaming here. I am honestly curious as to why one is ok and the other not, when the effects of drinking while pregnant can be more harmful than smoking.
For the record I have done neither while pregnant. I just cannot understand how drinking is ok but smoking is an evil thing that mothers are subjecting their unborn child to.
Post # 3
I’m not sure, but I know that I wouldn’t feel comfortable drinking or smoking while pregnant.
Post # 4
Just to start off, I’m not condoing either one.
But someone who smokes usually smokes every day, multiple times a day.
And someone who has 1/2 a glass of wine during pregnancy usually does it at most once a week, usually rarer than that.
I’m not doing either. (I don’t smoke to begin with. I won’t drink because if something did go wrong, I don’t want look back and wonder “what if”. I do still use alcohol in some recipes when cooking, but it’s in small amounts and most of it cooks out, and if my husband orders a fancy wine or craft beer I’ll take one little sip to taste. I still use vanilla extract in my smoothies too, and that has a small amount of alcohol.)
There have been recent studies that, while no amount of drinking is considered “safe”, that in small amounts it’s not necessarily “dangerous” either. (Still too risky for me though.) http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/06/study-pregnant-women-can-drink-a-little/
I actually know several women who were told by their DOCTORS when they were almost to their due date “you need to relax, go home and have a glass of red wine!”
Post # 5
I am a non-smoker and hardly ever a drinker and obviously have done neither when pregnant. I don’t know if my point has any relevance here, but pregnant or not, smoking is not good for anyone’s health at any time, any age, any gender. Whereas there are mixed reviews as to in moderation that drinking can be harmless and depending on the drink “good for you”. It can definitely be bad in certain cases, but at no time is smoking ever good for you, no?
Post # 6
I have never heard the mentality that drinking while pregnant is OK. I’ve always heard that drinking and smoking are both big no-nos (and learned about it in my child psych and physiology courses).
Post # 7
I didn’t do either when I found out I was pregnant. Both my pregnancies were unexpected I was young so I had a few drinks when I didn’t know I was pregnant. I have never been a smoker. FI smokes but been smoking out side since the age of 15 so he never smoked around me when I was pregnant and he never smokes around the kids.
Post # 8
I’m a little confused too because I didn’t think either was ok.
Post # 9
@abbyful: I can list 10 sites that say consuming any alcohol can have a possible negative effect on the child. The studies were considered inconclusive. There is no proof that a few drinks can cause FAS so it was deemed ok.
Post # 10
@Storm0075 – Of course, I agree. And I said I don’t think it’s a good idea to drink. It’s been said for YEARS that drinking is bad during pregnancy because of fetal alcohol syndrome.
I’m just pointing out that it may be being looked at as more acceptable the past few years since this study suggests that it might not be as harmful as previous thought in small amounts. A big “maybe”.
And I think that when someone drinks is a big part of it too. If someone is full-term and has 1/2 glass of wine with dinner, I don’t see that being as bad as someone drinking weekly in the 1st or 2nd trimesters when important body parts of forming.
It will never be proven that a certain amount of alcohol is safe versus unsafe because it’s unethical to do that sort of experiment.
Post # 11
I never did either when I was pregnant and think women who do are taking a stupid risk with their child. Smoking is never good for your body or anyone around. Drinking a glass of red wine a day is good for you heart and the toxins get filtered out through your liver. In moderation, red wine is good for you. In moderation, smoking is still bad for you. it is also a gateway drug and highly addictive. And to be honest, if a preg mother would have a cig every once in a while.. I seriously doubt she would cut out the alchy alltogether. So shes prob doing both.. not a good combo for a defenceless fetus, dont you think?
Post # 12
I don’t do either when I am pregnant regardless of what current trends are in the medical community. If there is any chance that something I am doing can harm my child, I avoid. A glass of wine her or there isn’t worth it to me.
Smoking is never good for anybody. There is no health benefit and is known to cause illness with second and third hand contact. Baby’s can also be addicted to nicotine and go through withdrawl just like an adult. It is proven to cause low birth weights and many grow up to have asthma and other breathing problems. I hate the people that will follow with-“I have done it and my kids were born ok” those people got lucky, and I am not counting on luck that my baby will be ok, I do everything in my power to give them the best start.
Post # 13
There may be no safe amount according to your research, but experts do not necessarily agree with you. I can give you a bunch of websites too and they don’t take the stance of “there’s no proof it causes harm, so it must be alright”. There have been studies done that actually turned up data that in some cases LIGHT drinking in pregnancy can even be beneficial. There was a very large and well-respected study done here in England about it.
http://news.discovery.com/human/alcohol-drinking-pregnant-women.html (US article about the British study in the first one)
Personally, I have not drank while pregnant but I wasn’t much of a drinker before either. BUT, I have also been to 3 OBs (one in the states, a US military midwife here and the British NHS midwives at the British hospital I am delivering at) and all 3 have told me that a small glass of wine or beer every once in a while is not going to hurt anything. The NHS midwife actually encouraged it in late pregnancy to help me relax.
I think it all comes down to what the woman and her doctor are comfortable with.
I also think you are grossly understating how people feel about drinking in pregnancy. It’s not a “People don’t care about drinking but freak about smoking” situation. People freak out about both issues. People freak out about pregnant women eating lunch meat, for goodness sake.
In the end, I take the same stance as I do about smoking… your body, your choice.
@Beebug: I agree with you and I think you make an excellent point.
Post # 14
I dont smoke and barely drink so I have absolutely no intensions on consuming any alcohol when we decide to ahe children (except for vanilla I cant live without baked goods). I would never say anything about an expecting mom having a sip of wine however if she ordered a half litre I dont think anyone can say thats a good idea. FAS is a horrible thing for a child to have and unless you have seen many cases I dont think people always realise how big of an issue it can be.
Post # 15
Smoking a single cigarette will raise your blood pressure temporarily. If blood pressure is elevated for long periods can be bad for both mom and baby especially if it develops to preeclampsia. While a single drink isn’t likely going to cause long term damage, long term or heavy drinking can also lead to fetal alcohol syndrome and I don’t think a ‘safe’ level has been determined. There is a threshold for both and as a pregnant woman you don’t want to exceed the threshold. So while a single cigarette or a single drink won’t likely cause damage, repeated use will. Most smokers won’t have just one cigarette. In my opinion neither drinking nor smoking is a good idea while pregnant and personally I don’t think smoking is ever a good idea.
Post # 16