Post # 122
Thanks for posting this, I was thinking about it just now. My destination wedding Photographer is about $800- $4000 I had to justify to Fiance why paying that to one person counts and the main things was after its all said and done, all you have is photos and video.
Post # 123
@bklynbridetobe: Thanks, I just think some people aren’t reading this thread or aren’t reading it objectively. I cringe at the words that are being put into our mouths… I just don’t see anywhere either in the original post or comments where any of the pros said people who can’t afford a pro should figure out a way to do so or they are definitely screwed. In fact, if they had the mods would have removed it and given a warning to those vendors because that’s a clear violation of FB policies. just the contrary – the mods have come on defending the pros and this thread. I just don’t get it but we’re used to the occassional hating I guess.
Post # 124
@PizzutiStudios: No offence taken at all. I was just pointing out one of the many sides of the argument when it comes to wedding photography. Before joining the Bee a few weeks ago, I never thought it was that big of a deal. When I got married 14 years ago my ex husband paid $2000+ to get our photos taken (it was actually discounted because he was a friend). They used film cameras and filters at that time. This was in the SF Bay at the height of the Dot Com boom so prices were going to be inflated anyway. We never thought it was a big deal and paid it because it was important to us.
My wedding now is going to be way smaller than it was back then so priorities are going to be different though we will still hire a photographer.
Post # 125
@PizzutiStudios: It might cost that much to you, but that doesn’t mean that it is worth it to me. Or that it should be.
EDIT: though i didn’t see all the vitriol on this thread before I posted that. O_O I hired a photorgrapher who usually charges about 5k for weddings. He is doing me a favor and lowering his cost to 1k (my wedding is on a monday, labor day, and I don’t need prints). I genuinely appreciate that. If he hadn’t, I would not be having professional photography. I understand what it takes to run a studio, and the time and costs incured from doing so. I appreciate photographers.
3.5 k would not be worth it to me to have photos done by a pro. I’d rather have some slightly goofy pictures from family and friends which still document the experience, but aren’t necessarily gallery ready. i think more brides need to consider their vendors in this light. There’s no need to be hateful, though.
Post # 126
@PizzutiStudios: I didn’t mean you specifically. I mean the photographers and even other bees in general who say “oh, well you get what you pay for” like they’re giving you a warning if you don’t hire a well established photographer with years of experience. Just because a vendor does not charge top dollar doesn’t mean they suck at what they do and should be dismissed as an option. Photography is expensive and yes, a lot of hard work goes into it, but a wedding can’t be all about the photography. It isn’t all about the photography, it’s about the couple and their guests. Your camera won’t send people home on a full stomach. Your camera won’t give people a comfortable place to sit or music to dance to. Your camera won’t act as an officiant or make the venue look pretty. A wedding can be held without any kind of photography at all. It’s not an essential aspect. So if bees want to come here and vent about how much it costs just to capture a few moments and have to pay thousands by the hour they should have the right to do so.
Post # 127
@PizzutiStudios: You haven’t offended me at all… it’s just that I hate the general implication that you have to go big or go home when it comes to photos. If you compromise on every other aspect of your wedding, you don’t get the same criticism on here as if you compromise on your photos. It’s as if photos are somehow sacrosanct. And @CARA1978: is right when she says that “I’ve actually seen more brides-to-be here getting blasted for daring to hire a family member or a student. They are constantly told how ****ed up their photos will be and how they’ll regret that decision for the rest of their lives.”
I just don’t like being told that I must do something which I cannot afford, and I hate it when people do the equivalent of saying “you’ll regret that!” when I have no choice. I’m sure other people feel the same, which is why these threads have so many cross people posting on them! It’s not at all a personal attack on the pros… it’s just a way of expressing reality for people on a budget!
Post # 128
What good would the advice of professional photographers be if it wasnt honest? Of course no prop is oing to see someone they think is making a mistake and not either warn them or try to educate them. I think the pros in here are much more polite and reserved than many people realize. Do you notice that when people post engagement and wedding photos and ask ” what do you think of my photos” and they are obviously really bad, you never see a pro jump in and say what they really think. It’s too late but if they really wanted to be meanies that say ” you get what you pay for” that would easily be a place to do it. But they don’t. Why on earth would they not want to try to warn people? I think pretty much every pro qualifies every statement with ” book the best you can afford and that you value”. I really never see pros trying to push people to spend more than their budget unless their budget is super unrealistic for thei expectations.
Post # 129
I will say… Please dont lump all of us in one bunch. 🙂 I do not have a go big or go home… I say do what you can afford. I have seen that mentality from photographers/people and it annoys me! I cant even afford me for full coverage! lol
There are competent photographers in many price ranges and you dont always need 8 hour, an engagement shoot, or an album. Always go for the best coverage you can get with what you can afford. Three -six hours with someone good will be better than 8 with crapola and extras. Extras can always come later! You cant afford an e session and want to get to know your photographer more? Meet them for lunch, or dinner, or even some dessert and wine…
As to what this thread was about.. It business basics. Taxes blow! haha Most people here probably make more that I do… lol Even the Mc D’s employee. They pay good in my area! lol Its ok, I picked an art career, its an expensive hard business to be in. Times get tight but I feel jobless and free even with as much work as I put in. 😀 For me its priceless.
Post # 130
@Mrs. Wallaby: and I have yet to met a wedding photographer who isn’t awesome. Keep it up 🙂
Oh, I should introduce you to mine…
Post # 131
@Atalanta: Or come to my next networking meeting.
Post # 132
@CARA1978: You said it! That is EXACTLY what has been said more than once.
Post # 133
I understand that you photographers put a lot of money into providing us brides with great pictures to look back on forever but there are some who charge wayyyyy too much in the DC Metropolitan areas because they can…those are the ones that I do not care too much for.
Post # 134
@FtrMrsAMH: I’m sorry but with all due respect, if people are paying it, why wouldn’t they charge it? The idea of business is making the maximum the market will bear for your services.
Post # 135
@Magdalena: Your criticism is valid, but it’s a criticism of a system and of society and not of the person you are directing it at. That’s why the argument is out of place here.
Post # 136
As mother of the bride, I helped research photographers in our area when the bride and groom’s first choice was unavailable. We contacted a few by phone or e-mail and had a face-to-face with one. She wanted to re-arrange the wedding day timeline to have outdoor photos at what she considered the best time of day. The timeline had already been decided based on certain priorities for the couple, so they did not hire that photographer. The one they got was “middle of the road” for pricing and quality, but my daughter connected with her, so she was a happy bride for her photos. That photographer was thrilled to take early evening/sunset photos–not a problem at all, like the other one had warned. The groom’s mother and I ended up buying the CD of proofs, which was not included in the package, and got enlargements for our families. This was an extra cost that neither of our families had really planned on, but we’re both happy with the decision. I also downloaded free software for designing a photo book and made a complete Wedding Day album for the bride and groom for their first Christmas, and got a cheaper version of my own to show off to friends. The photographer had included an album with the wedding package, but it was a smaller one with contemporary styling. I’m glad I went with my instincts and made the more romantic, old-fashioned album because my daughter and her husband both love it. I’m just mentioning this because, even though photography is both a science and an art, beauty is still in the eye of the beholder. This technically-inept mother created a wonderful keepsake for a precious daughter and new son-in-law.
It’s really too bad that so many people have responded so emotionally to the photographer who posted the breakdown of her business costs. She was genuinely trying to provide some frame of reference for those of us who are not familiar with the business side of photography. Apparently, the “caution” statement instructing people to avoid personal attacks or snarkiness when posting comments was ignored by some people.